Quote Originally Posted by Heartless Angel View Post
Which is my main problem with her. She had the smarts and interesting abilities, but when it comes right down to it, she lost in a fair fight. That leads me to believe either her plan was flawed, or her powers were limitted in some way.
It also seems a bit realistic. I wouldn't say Squall and co. won because of a flaw in her plan (though I will admit, Ellone was a rather risky tool to use) or limitations in her power; rather, it was a caveat that allowed them to fight in "equal terms". It was the fact that, while Ellone was useful for her, it was also useful for them; the fact that she sealed the group's power beforehand is just an example that she wasn't trying to play fair.

Now when you compare him side by side with villaisn who DID want to destroy the world, the fact tht he suceeded where they failed does say something, so I'd have to say Kuja is stronger than COD, Zeromus, Exdeath, and Kefka.
It might be a bit of a nitpick, but Kefka wasn't really thinking of destroying the world when he succeeded on his plan to gain the power of the Statues. Claim it was sheer luck or something else, but he did manage to bring the world to a state of near-death, and it was mostly later on that he decided just terrorizing the world wasn't enough. It's important because you see how his victory (the way it may have been) reshapes the world and drains the hopes of everybody. So I wouldn't say Kefka failed; still, that doesn't make him the strongest, admitting Ulti could finish him off easily on equal terms. Or Kuja going on Trance (but probably only on Trance; one of the things I do like about him is that his "final form" isn't monstrous or gigantic but rather realistic).