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I tried to stay as non-biased as I could by only reading the previous judgment after my own, so hopefully its my opinion and not her influence on mine.
They joy of being a judge is its your opinion, especially in writing, one persons style just may not agree with another, while brilliant to a third.
And are you judging the next rounds?
The difference in styles shouldnt alter what you put though, only what you think. I mean, obviously you have oppinion but you can just use general rules of written language to judge these. =]
Glad you liked mine enough for me to re-win in anyway =].
Aimee.
Hyz, I know you're being nice, but I rather not you tell a judge how to judge, or what to judge by. I think by now, he knows to use the rules of written language. He just adds his 2 cents in with it.
That's the kind of judging I like, and also the kind of judging that's the best. ^_^
Edit: Hyz, why are there lightning rods on my stage? I clearly don't remember describing any existing.. >_>; Yet they do, only to be destroyed... XD;;; So like.. wtf's the point of their existence?
Grrrrrrrrrrrr, why the hell do you have to be so damn difficult Toph? Seriously. You didnt create the damn boat I was on, I DID! It DIDNT get destroyed, it conducted lightening and so moving it away from my character.
As for telling him how to judge. I DIDNT! I was talking with him, I was just saying he didnt have to use his own oppinion. I didnt say "dont use your own opinnion" did I? THAT would be telling him. Why is everything you say to me in here so agressive? I'm sick of it, I cant do anything right by you.
Edit: And once again you make the club into your own personal preference station. There are others here to you know, we are all entitled to what WE believe is the best judging. jhxwgldifdijfye
Edit 2: Myself and Toph have talked and I have told him why I did certain things and it's all good now. =]]
Aimee.
Hyz, in talking about Text based RPB's... to use the general rules of written language is a rather loose term personally. If we were looking at General terms of writing, the RPB's would be more focused on the structoral english class type rules... which would focus more on grammar, style, spelling and so forth.
I see an RPB a little beyond that. My personal view is that it is not so much how a person uses proper english to create teir idea, but the idea itself, how it is presented, the ability to paint a mental image in writing. I don't look much at spelling or grammar styles because I myslef am not very good with such formal things. I more like to see how good you are at the actual Role Play, to pretend to live and be something you are not. The more you are able to make your character believable and alive.
For the most part, I judge based on experience. Not to say I am the best to be qualified, I just have been here at TFF for a long time and have followed the RP/RPB at TFF since the near beginning... so I more go what has been and so forth... Kind of the tradition that has been set.
Just to let you know, see how I think/work. I can at least say I have experience at TFF in the RP/RPB. I may not do it much any more (I am sort of retired and have been for about 3 or more years) but... I have been in plenty of my own RPB's and have judged a few TOA's and other things... so thats my "qualification" if you will. If you want general english rules... I probably am not the best person to talk to :)
I just... don't have the super impulsive drive like i used to... I need to get back into writing though, I just don't want to do it in won-ton open fights. It's gotta have a point. Same with RP
Ah, okay. I understand now. I thought you were basically saying that what you saw as good writing was more influencial than.. erm... actual talent, if you get me. I dont mean that you didnt recognise talent more that you just saw a certain wriing style as talent. I get that you dont do that now.
I liked your judging anyway, I like anything that says what it means. Thats why I liked Aerifs, he spoke about things in a way that told me exactly what ahe thought. So does yours so I'm happy if you are judging the rest of the fights.
As for your qualification, as you put it, I never disputed that. Your ref no on here speaks for the time you have spent and you have easily seen more fights than me. Like I said, I wasnt having a go, more like... Trying to grasp what you were saying and how you were judging. I liek to fully understand things.
=]
You can call me Aimee... Hyz is for site dwellers not club members or judges. lol
Thanks, Aimee.
Aerif's was alright, I guess, but it just seemed very vague to me. Aerif really didn't go as deep into his two cents as I would have hoped, instead he used points, which were very weird for me, as I have never seen judging, or judged RPBs before with points. They usually don't work very well together.
You seem to be missing the other round 2 battle, Toph.
Yourself and Xeim?
You mean DH and Xeim? Didn't you read my intro post thing on your thread? =\
Xeim dropped out of the tournament.
Huh what? I NEVER dropped out of the tournament. Don't misinterpret me. I said I was "done with this (as in, the fighting)." And to tell me when everyone was through with their happy arguement, but I never once mentioned the tournament. Taking 1 +1 and making 3...doesn't work. ^_^;
I'm still in, though I don't know how much time I'll have. We all know DH is going to win (=P), but I still want to fight her anyway.
This club really needs to get itself together, haha. Hopefully things will start to work after the inner RP is made. I suggest not planning for anything except that for a while after this tournament ends. We've seen what a disaster doing something before we can work together has turned out to be. So let's not do it again.
--Xeim--
Well when you said it on MSN, it felt like the tournament. To me, fighting = tournament. So that's what I thought you meant. I'm sorry for any interpretations. But honestly it's not that big of a deal. I can just remake the thread.
Haha....fighting=dispute in club. =P But yes, please remake the thread. I need the practice. This is technically going to be my second RPB since Psiko never posted. I want to get better! ^_^;
And, as Hyz mentioned a while ago (I think), everyone needs to get their profiles to the inner Rp in. That means everyone. Not just the tourney participants. Toph, I believe we discussed linking to the profiles in the member list? I don't know where that ever went...
I still need to do mine too, so I'll try to get that done before the tourney ends.
--Xeim--
((Couple things... Your character was not described, nor linked in the club thread. Not sure if you read the description, but Toph's ship is more spaceship-y, it's in the sky, not a wooden boat. Lastly, you really shouldn't be editing hours after you post, if at all, as it's a tournament.))
Posted by PM in our fight... Right. You dont really look at anything do you? As my profile is in my signature... So hard to look for I know, it must take you ages. ~rolls eyes~
As for Tophs ship, I never said it was wooden and liek I said in here, me and Toph has talked and I know your have been sticking your nose in without reading my post properly so thanks for that. We (me and Toph) agree'd that the decking can be hardwood.
Annnnnnnddddddddddddddddd finally. Read the club posts eh? It only takes a short time then you will see that Syd said it didnt matter how long after we post that we edit providing the opponent hasnt already posted. ~cough~ You didnt post for days so technically I could have edited as much as I wanted.
Edit: Sorry, Syd said he didnt mind it. Not that it didnt matter.
Edit 2: Also, I did put my profile up earlier in the club. So couldnt you have just looked at that?
Edit 3: Lol and the last thing I edited in my fight I told Toph I was doing just before I did it. So there was deffo no rule breaking involved... In fact, it was to put in "hardwood" instead of "woodwork".
Jeez, you say I dont read.
Aimee.
My apologies... I read your post and saved it to my computer...
You edited hours later and I didn't read that, though now that I have - wood flooring in a space/air ship seems a bit odd. I'll add shag carpeting next. Though, to let you know: "work made of wood; especially : interior fittings (as moldings or stairways) of wood". Definition of woodwork.
Never said you broke any rules... o_O
Also, your profile was not linked in the club thread, as I looked through the character/battleground posts. Maybe it was in the old thread or something?
Anyway, sorry for teh mix-up PM. Like I said, hardwood, it was changed to that. I cant really land on a wall can I? But anywho, I'll post again tonight I think.Quote:
Originally posted by Me
Aerif and Xeim, if you both agree I’d quite like to try out the random character allocation out in an RP I am coming up with, so if I post you both the details would you be interested in creating some?
EDIT: Sorry DH, just noticed that it is up. Could you provide a link to your character for me. Mine will be Nkomis, I realise she is water based and that this is taking place in a desert but to me that makes it all the more interesting. Means I'll have to work harder to win.
Hopefully my post should be up tonight, I just have to study the lanscape as written in ToA and write a decent post reflecting it. So yeah, tonight, hopefully.
Thanks, Aimee.
Also, I know you didnt say I was rule breaking. I was covering my hind by providing evidence before it was due. =]
Edit: I just realised... You said wood didnt make sense... So what you are saying is that an entirely metal ship that conducts lightening would? So like... We all die as soon as we step on it? Or... Lol... Is it made of a certain type of metal that I should have researched?
Thanks, Aimee.
...The ship is obviously made out of a special alloy that does not conduct/kill itself because of electricity.
And I think there definitely should be a time limit on editing, because I've gotten a complaint from PM regarding that.
So.. I'll say that you can no longer edit your posts after 45 minutes of the initial post time.Quote:
Originally Posted by PM MSN
Okay fine. That does mean I'll only be able to post at weekends though, mainly. I'm not a very good speller on here, I've always said that and I wont have any sort of spell check untill weekends when I get home to my portable hard-drive.
~yawn~ I only went over 45 minutes both times to please Toph anyway... Change to hardwood, change so that the monks were in my temple even though, if you'd read my profile, you'd know that anyway. 'Had' is past tense.
... All people do on here is moan, also PM I jumbled up your post because it was confusing as f**k, you had too many things going on at once and the way you wrote it made it really unclear.
Edit: On closer inspection I dont see what I did that jumbled up. Enlighten me oh moody PM.
Aimee.
http://thefinalfantasy.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=58662
Any time either of you want to post... That'd be great...
Two battles basically tossed out for lack of posting would be quite upsetting, especially being WRITERS ACADEMY. >_>
Hyz, working on my post at the moment, as been a little busy with life and helping Toph judge.
Uhm, yeah...I'll post when I can. I've been really busy lately, and frankly this wasn't at the top of my priority list. There's no need for it to be if DH hasn't posted. I'll get a post out before the deadline, for sure, but you know...I don't need to hurry. It's not as if I've forgotten about the match. -_-
But uhm, thanks for the reminder?
Since DH hasn't posted you can't?
Again, trying to make sure it gets posted in so it's not a WASTE of a tournament. 1 post for a whole match cause it waited til the end to post = waste. Trying to keep things active. =/
I don't know why people can't just point these things out politely and reply without the need for excessive rage. Seriously, whatever happened to nettiquette?
I've not been posting recently because I'm still seriously pissed at Toph, especially since he overlooked my judgement and then employed Psychosyd to come to nearly the exact same conclusions, even down to the purple writing. So I decided not to post in case I totally lost it.
Prodigal Madness is right about keeping things active, I realise you've posted know Xeim, however Evangel made claims that he would wait to post after Uryuu posted, however neither posts appeared and both where put out. That's why it's important to keep things semi-active.
Anyway, I think I may have detected the main flaw of this tournament, the reason why more fighting than complimenting is occuring and the reason why people are taking the approach to 'shoot first, ask questions later'.
The tournament has became a mini TOA.
Down to the way the arenas where chosen, the introduction from the tournament organiser, the eventual bringing in of a TOA judge, the way matches where made using a third party randomiser. Sure, these things can be used in other places without necessarily being linked to the TOA, however when all of these things are put toghether and the actual method of judging is criticised for not being the same as or simalar to the TOA then we have a BIG problem.
Also, your all becoming a bit to reliant on Toph, this may be because he's the most dominearing of the club 'leaders' catergory, however you must remember that the only responsibillity he's actually claimed is the tournament, so the likes of the inner-RP shouldn't really be something you should be expecting him to launch or nag people to do. Democracy people, democracy.
Where's this rage, Aerif? o.O;
And I know Syd had similar results. The major difference... is that he said why in good detail. You never said why. You just had points with a minor statement as to why. I know you said you did what you did to be easy on yourself, but I didn't think a slight description was that much trouble. That's all I really asked for.
And yes, it's a Mini TOA. ...That's pretty much what I had in mind to begin with. Although I screwed up on a lot of things. (I could have sworn I've taken responsibility for how this turned out several posts ago...but I guess that was ignored.)
Hehe...I never said anything like that. I merely stated it wasn't high on my list of priorities. If you'd like to know how severely packed my schedule is and how minor an RPB no one's posted in yet is, I can gladly explain. But you know...that would take up the time that I could use to be doing more important things. o_O And I'm really sorry if I sound horrid, but I'm rather impatient in situations like these. -_-Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodigal Madness
Which would kinda be why its my project that I'm uhm...nagging people about...and launching. Though, remember I'd feel hypocritical in my nagging if I do it too much since I haven't posted a profile either. If you want me to then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerif
Everyone post yer profiles! They ain't that hard!!! ^^;; I don't really feel like we're relying on Toph too much. He opened the club and is the only one actively exercising his leadership powery thingies....so it's natural most people turn to him. You know? Meh, maybe I'm just off my rocker. >_>
And you, know...I've stated this before. Things aren't turning out well because we took on too big of a project too soon. The inner RP is basically designed so we're forced to figure out how to work together. If we don't- the club goes down the toilet (flushing whatever way you dream about) again.
I don't know if you guys will like this...but what's done is done and that's it. No use bringing up things that have already been decided and become water under the bridge. (two cliches in one paragraph. Go me.) Frankly, I'd say all complaints having anything to do with past judging as well as people's posting methods...and how the tourney is set up are moot. Until of course, they arise again. In that event, however, I hope we've all settled down and realized that we DON'T have to attack each other to have a conversation. I'll argue this point again and again until you guys have it solid in your head, because it is important.
Seriously people. I truthfully feel like I'm in elementary school again. Though, I agree that elementary schoolers don't have such...developed...vocabularies. Eloquence is the seperator.
Well then. I wish everyone luck in the tourney. Here's to more unity in the club.
--Xeim--
Okay, thats fine. I'm a tad ill atm myself anyway so it's taking me 3 times longer to read and write. Just post it up in your own time we have like... 13... days left anyway.Quote:
Originally posted by PM
Hyz, working on my post at the moment, as been a little busy with life and helping Toph judge.
I've been telling people over and over again to post this thing up. It's taking people ages I think for the same reason the tourny is dying. I don't think anyone is really ready at the moment, even you Xeim.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeim
Which would kinda be why its my project that I'm uhm...nagging people about...and launching. Though, remember I'd feel hypocritical in my nagging if I do it too much since I haven't posted a profile either. If you want me to then...
Everyone post yer profiles! They ain't that hard!!!
We have no active topic aside from bickering.
No real sense of unity (I feel like I'm on one side of a political breakdown).
And last but not least people dont seem to have time. I mean, it took us 5 days to re-boot after the last argument and my final post and then we are straight back into the mainstream we are all part of, arguing.
Whether you be actually taking part of simply commenting we are all part of it as long as we let it happen. You may say you can't stop people but the simple truth is you can, just by agreeing on a solution. I'll hold up my hands and say I took a massive part in it but thats because I was sticking up for sombody. Not because I wanted to cause trouble.
As for it being a mini TOA. Can't it be something else? It's not being marked like TOA surely? The people who would normally join the TOA would be better than some of us, we should be marked on our own levels of skill which is why simply facing us against each other isnt good enough. You can't gain skill by being pounded into the dirt and told you arnt good enough.
Oh, anyway Democracy... Exactly Aerif. Exactly. Let's get this all sorted out that way, we nee dto set up a few more rules such as, like, a rule about taking up judgement issues with judges. It should be taken to the leader and then the leader talk to the judge. That way we arnt attacking people directly. I think issues against each other should be kept on a relative low down, maybe send a pm to the person you are having issues with. Talk about it, and get it sorted without a brawl.
Maybe I'm talking crap... I just think we should do soemthing fully as a club, without contestation. It's gonna be hard too because, as Toph said, we are all creative and disputes happen but lets try to keep them between eachother and get them resolved.
I was gonna say soemthing esle but I cant remember what, I may edit.
Thanks, Aimee.
Okay, making the excuse "we are all creative and disputes will happen" is getting REALLY old. The big reason why I avoid posting in here is because people are arguing. If you have conflicting opinions, you don't have to turn it into an argument. Just tell the person what you want to say, and it doesnt even have to be a post in the club. If you want to say something to someone, do it via P.M. This is a club, not a chat room. Basically, if you want to say something that contributes to the club, and not specifically a certain rpb or something like that, then say it.
Alright, inner rp. So what are the EXACT details that we should include in our character's profiles? Of course, I don't plan on using anyone like Dragoth for it. Too many conflicts with other characters xD. And, what is the setting? Are the characters learning about writing in an academy or something? or maybe we could do some fantasy FF8 garden-type feel, where we'd be doing more stuff like that. I have no clue ><
So that's my five cents, now give it back. I'm poor. ><
(by the way, I hate the word democracy. I just keep thinking about how many idiots have the power to vote in this country, and it makes me sick ^^)
Ha ha, I said everything you just said. I just said disputes will happen also. Pming is a way to resolve it without dragging everybody into the frey.
Its you, you ninny. You write about you in a profile. You can add things and stuff I assume but I just put about me... I'll edit and re-post mine in a mo and then you'll see.
Its in an academy. I hope we dont have cliques lol.
Democracy is what we should be, or at least have a group of leaders acting in a single mind and taking suggestions.
Also, why am I no longer an event designer or a member? (rheatorical) I'd like to be re-instated as both, please Toph =]]].
Thank you, Aimee.
Because some time ago, you said you quit, so I took you off. You came back as always =P
and didn't ask until now to be put back. So I'll put you back. xD
And yeah, as Aimee said, it's an academy... what other settings do you need? And yes, it's mostly a profile based upon yourself, but you can appear however you like. I did post my profile ages ago.
Edit:
Members:
Xeim
Psiko
celtic_silver
Prodigal Madness
Storm
Musicmuse
Darkwolf
Red
Evangel
Aerif
DragonHeart
Lococolt04
I'd like to know how many out of all of you are still even interested in this club at all.
Name: Aimee-Bethany Rose Summers, double barrel name.
Age: 18. On here I have put myself as older but as Toph knows I do that so people don't talk to me like I'm young and I was 16 when I joined.
Appearance: Short blonde hair down to like mid neck. Fringe swept to the left. Blue eyes, very light in colour and for some reason they sometimes go grey. As for clothes I wear like... Jeans and white shirts under black tops. I sometimes wear an orange jacket too. What shoes? Dolly ones blue, green and turquoise. =]
Personality: I'm fairly bubbly, most of the time. I have strong oppinions and a quick temper, I also tend to give people too much and care FAR too much about people. Most of the time I'm incredably sarcastic, but my naivity makes up for that. I've been said to be 'cute' and 'innocent' before. I don't know about that though...
Background: My origins lie in Cambridge, UK, the city of my youth and early teenage years. I moved up here (to Manchester) to be near my dad whilst my mum worked a new job in London. My mum does liev with us, just only really every other weekend or less. My dad's an archaeologist, he digs up boring stuff and reads books, no dinosaurs of ruins for him. My mums a doctor, she's crazy and banned me from dying my hair at my new school. Manchester Royal college of Music... I sing. I also study English Language, Law and Psychology via that postal University, good stuff. My dad spoils me, I hate it too, he buys me dresses I'll never wear that are far out of my fashion. More inkeeping with Paris Hilton. He buys me shoes that I wouldn't dare scratch because of their price. I generally have a "nice" life, so it would seem. I miss my mum though and I wish I could dissapear my brothers and sister. Found that music wasn't for me and decided to join a newly created school named the "Writers Academy" hopefully to meet new people, extend my skills and escape my parents.
Read my journal to see who my brothers and sister is/are.
Classes I'll take...
-Spelling
-Tense Shifts
-Vocabulary
-Detail
I'm happy with it just being me, I think I'm cooky enough for it. Maybe I'm wrong?
Anyway, that was my profile Dark. =]
(I just re-posted so that Dark will see this)
Aimee.
Ah, sounds pretty simple. I must've missed all of the details or whatever. Sorry about that. Anyways, I've got nothing else to do so I'll just post it here. Although, I guess it feels weird going to school, coming home and going on my computer just to pretend I'm in school again :p but ah well, at least I get to have anime spikes if I want to.
Name: Alex Rudi, yay for real names!
Age: 15, hellz yeah
Appearance: Black pants with chains hanging to one side. Black shirt with skull and fire. Black jacket and 2 long chain neckelaces wrapped twice around his head. And yes! I can have black anime spikes with red tips!
(most of the apperance is based on me at school, except that I wear jeans because I can't afford the cool black pants, they're like 50$ or more!)
Additude: It's me, not really much more to tell. I guess I'll try to have a better additude than when I'm ACTUALLY in school :p
Classes: Grammar, Detail, and Flow.
So yeah, that's a lot of black. But, you said to write about me, so that's what I did! xD
EDIT: Got the classes up, thanks Hyz
Uhhhh, your classes are based on the ones on here. D'oh... I forgot to tell you lol.
Erm... I'll try to rummage them up for you. Hang on.
Oh and btw Toph, is my pre-designed character thing from ages ago going to be a 'class'? If so we'd better get that sorted right away huh?
EDIT:
There we go... Classes.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeim
Classes
Classes are the most important aspect of this inner RP. They each help you to better a certain aspect of writing. All members must choose at least 3 classes from the list below. These classes will determine the types of training activities you are allowed to do. Training activities are detailed in the first post, and it is recommended that members participate in them from time to time. After signing up for your initial classes, additional classes can be chosen every other day of the week-except Sundays.
-Grammar (sent structure, punctuation, etc.)
-Spelling
-Tense Shifts
-Detail (description)
-Flow
-Vocabulary
EDIT 2: I forgot to say- "thank you Toph for re-instating me" =]. Stupid Aimee.
Thanks, Aimee.