You are basically quoting 1 Corinthians. But I agree with you. I think that true love will wait and is patient. And if you substitute God for love and you get the God we serve!
Love Is 100% real
Love maybe for some people not for me
Love is for the weak
Love hahaha never heard of it
I think love is never tired of waiting; love is kind; love has no envy; love has no high opinion of itself, love has no pride; love's ways are ever fair, it takes no thought for itself; it is not quickly made angry, it keeps no accounts of wrong; it takes no pleasure in wrong doing, but has joy in what is true; love has the power of undergoing all things, having faith in all things, hoping all things. though the prophet's word may come to an end, tongues come to nothing, and knowledge have no more value, love has no end. being in Love is and this is from my opinion: When two people care for each other so much that they would not let nothing or no one get in there way of being together. And they will go to the end of the world to be with each other and do anything for one another. But no one can explain Love. There is no explantion only what u would call Love.
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You are basically quoting 1 Corinthians. But I agree with you. I think that true love will wait and is patient. And if you substitute God for love and you get the God we serve!
Love is the only thing worth an ounce of attention in this mess of a human planet.
One-liner, warn away, but's it's all I have to say.
Govinda was warned for that post, she's told me.
Why? Because that's how she feels and she can't elaborate on it? Do you truly only expect people to post if they have several hundred words to say? Do you not believe that it's possible to state something significant, discussion-worthy, meaningful or sensible in just a couple of lines? C'mon now. Get real. What she said was on topic. She didn't answer a hundred questions, she didn't state a hundred things. And more often than not, the less words you speak, the more you say. Obviously it's an expression that flies over the heads of moderators here.
This forum works well enough. There's no risk of exceeding bandwidth without the rule that all posts must be short essays at the very least. This is the only forum I have ever encountered on which the moderators, administrators and members are so needlessly strict regarding posting rules, whether it be dictating the length of one's post, or controlling what words can be posted on here (honestly, do you think there's actually anyone on these boards who would be offended by the F word? Again, get real).
In real discussions, in real life, with real people in front of other real people, do you think that their responses are as drawn-out as on this mesage board? A discussion would be so much sharper, so much more interesting, if there was no minimum post length to adhere to.
And surely, a more sensible way to uphold the rules of the board would be to penalise people for posting spam? A one-liner is not spam if it is absolutely and undeniably related to the topic it's posted in. You might want to check the definition of "spam" again.
Govinda's post was short, but it was also sweet. It means something, which is a feat that many on here can hardly achieve in an 800 word essay that they've laboured over needlessly for an hour or more.
This forum needs to loosen up, and it needs to live and let live. Let people speak their minds without censoring their words or dictating the length for which they must speak.
And, despite the sad fact that I'm probably going to be banned for expressing a viewpoint, for disagreeing with the set rules, for questioning the way this forum is run - I'll say something on topic.
I am in love, and I have grown to know it. It has good points and it has bad points, but it's something to be dealt with whether we like it or not. It is, as Govinda put, the most important thing to be concentrating on in this feeble, dying planet. It is all we need.
Finally, to warn or ban me after this post would be to prove my point completely. Thank you in advance.
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What a good post. I don't mind being warned at all, Chez, it doesn't bother me and I know you're rule-bound to do it. It's not you, OceanEyes, Loco, Josh - it's the rules. Evan just disagrees with the principle; and I think I do too.
Love you, man.
I have oft taken exception to that rule, myself. Especially as brevity is the soul of wit. Too often does one yarn on about an opinion or topic that may be summed up effectively simple and small. As I remember, Chez warned me for the same thing in this forum. But not to turn this into an attack on this forum's rules, whatever they may be.
You want a convoluted expression of love? I've none to give you. Tis an uninformed question. Love is love.
Of course love can be called names, a chemical process, as it most certainly is; but that makes it none the less magical. People think that explaining things cheapen them. But the truth lies in that no one is really sure what love is. People who say they are, simply are not qualified to speak for all of us.
The best explanation for love I've heard is:
The most profound bond that can forge between seperate people. But that is still vague in a maudlin fashion.
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Fear not, this is not...the end of this world.
"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good..."
In my opinion love is real for some people not for me, I had a girlfriend before I deployed but she ended up cheating on me because she knew I was going overseas, and I guess I was expendable. I believe love is more a fairy tale like a Final Fantasy game, so I don't take love seriously anymore.
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true love is when your soul findst's counter part in another! if you are luckey enough to find that in life then you will live a great and happy life no matter what happens! because you know that no matter what happens she/he will always be there beside you! Everyone has three true loves in their life! I belive i have been lucky enough to have had one! so i can't wait till i find my next! and for the sayin it is better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all! no way! when you loose someone that you truely love it is the worste feeling imaginable! but always think! there's someone out there that is th right person for you! and don't give up till you find them!
I think love is real. How couldn't it be real? It's an extremely powerful emotion. I think those who say it isn't real are grumpy bastards.
But, most of the time I think people are in love with the idea of being in love, and when they get "hurt" they start complaining "waaa it's not real! nothing i know is real!"
my 2 cents
....Yes I may be fairly young but I've sorta come to an understanding....this is a really large topic....seeing as it could be an incredible compassion for something or just a huge fondness...
But I figure we're talking about the love between humans right...
So this love thing, is pretty much a strong compassion for someone of the opposite or same gender.
Again mentioning that I'm young so I haven't had all that much experience, but I think love is, willing do to anything for someone, and wanting them to be happy at all times even if that isn't with you :/
But I think that was sorta off topic.... But yeah love can be real, then again at this sorta age we wont know love, its really just a huge fondness (and wanting to get a root.....not me.. :/ )
Thats just my opinion though...
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Love.... hmm strong word
I believe that love can only be real in the most extreme circumstances.
Love is the eternal affection that you have for someone, that you know will not go away and they/it will always have a place in your heart.
By loving someone you would scourer the earth just to make them happy, fight their battles and do anything to keep them well and happy.
in term as much as someone believes they love someone a true love would not need to know that you think you love them, you would know that this person is the one you love.
You love your parents no matter how much just despise them, becasue they brought you into this would and you have a connection like none other towards them
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Yes I think it's real, though I think it is unexplainable, a combination of the mind and chemicals, and ever growing too, you can think you love someone the most you could possibly love someone and then in a week it's grown even more.
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I think..I think I can answer this pretty well.
As, of course, I've got my first GF and I'm just bursting with emotion.
On a physical/chemical level.
People have magnetic fields (as most of you should know), and when you come in contact with someone you might love, your magnetic fields meet, and conjoin. Your ions literally start pointing in the same direction. You walk at the same pace, say the same things, know what to say and when to say it, you look at the same things, everything clicks. Being on the same page is an understatement.
The Mental Level.
When you love someone, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING about them, becomes perfect.
For example, if you asked me to find something wrong with my GF, I swear I couldn't think of a single answer.
Like, see, I used to think I didn't like girls with long hair, I liked shorter hair.
But, my GF Micaelas hair is pretty long, it goes past her shoulder, and to be honest, I love it.
I mean..the only way I can sum it up, is, I LOVE her.
And when I say her, I mean every, little, detail.
She's perfect.
That, my friend, is what love is.
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Let me first say that during graduation ceremonies, wedding toasts, or eulogies I am all for brevity. Uncomfortable clothing in over crowded spaces demand speakers be brief (though that is often not the case.)
On internet forums, however, ‘one-liners’ are often an invitation for senselessness (i.e lol u b a funne 1 yo!) and degradation of topic integrity. Now, I’m not impugning the lot of you, I’m saying that a majority of posters are not mature enough to exercise the right to post however they feel responsibility. I don’t think the moderators here are over zealous or out of line for asking posters in the “Intellectual Discussion” forum expound on their thoughts.
“Love is the only thing worth an ounce of attention in this mess of a human planet.”
I think that’s a lovely sentiment. But why not say why other things (and what things) are not worthy of attention? Why not explain why, to you, love deserves all anyone has to give above and beyond other things (assuming you think that)? While I think what you’ve said is poignant I think you could have said more.
Love, for me, is violent. It causes a reckless abandon in me that nothing else can. I’ve only ever loved one person. She is my best friend, my muse, my reason for carrying on through hard times. I know that if she were wronged, or harmed, or made to suffer I would burn the face off the planet to rectify the injustice. To me love is a passion that burns hotter than any star, a hunger greater than any amount of sustenance can fill, a primal urge greater than that of even self preservation. “Hallmark” card love is…chocolates, walks on the beach, notes with ‘check yes or no,’ the movie Titanic. For that I have no nor will I make any time.
But for the love that challenges the ability to be reasonable… I would do anything for more of that in my life. That kind of love has shaped the world… and, indeed, shaken it to its very foundations.
Let me feel envious of all your pentup awesome emotions, whilst i wollow in my pitty.
Ok, now honeslty, i can not back up this amazing thing called love until i experience it. And im talking about the never dying, do anything, go anywhere for the other person kinda love. I thought i had found it, but it wasnt fairytale love. Excuse me for be a sceptic, but hell, maybe im incapable.
I do believe in that never ending love bull, but im not sure its for me. Not because i dont want it, (frick, i watch enough romcoms to choke a whale shark) but simply because i cant see it. I'll stick with femme fatale until someone proves me wrong.
for me, love is the most important part of my life... but a lot of people misunderstand the real meaning of love. yeah Dark One says is true and i am so thankful that he mentioned all about it...
i'm going to share something about two different meanings of love... and it's based on greek words. Note that unlike english, when it says one word in greek means one meaning, while some of the english word has a lot of meaning depending on how are we going to use it in many ways, you know... Christ is the best example of showing this one to us... we may never realize what He had done, but He is still willing to love us forever...
1) Agape- this is what we call an unselfish love.... you can name it. this is what we also call unconditional love, means that you are going to sacrifice to a person you love without any conditions (like making a contract or something). i know this one is hard because what if someone you love doesn't have the same feeling for you? or you are too far to each other or something happen that results on separation (you know what i'm talking about). it's really hard and i am not only talking about dating relationships, looking for someone to marry but also in friendship, family, etc. But you know the secret of overcoming those hardship we can encounter if we have this, it's simply to think that you really love him or her... and that's it like what the Bible says it's patient and kind.
2) eros- this one is kindda opposite to agape. this one is what we call it, Selfish love. Believe it or not, sometimes we are like this... we love someone because... that's one of the example of it. it's like what we can get from a person or something. It usually happens to sexual activities, using someone or any kind of abuse. yeah mostly when it comes to, you know sex. A person will love somebody when he can get something.. you can broaden it if you want to... it's also called an indulging thing. the results of it is much more painful to a person you will going to use or anyone involve to your life. it usually happens when a person gets tired to his mate for after all those times they been together and then he got want he wants to that person, it's really hard. i don't know about other people's opinion, but i do really believe that most people are like that.. that's the cause of being abusive, misleading someone, it's hard. that's why we should be careful what is our motives to love someone...
hope you understand what i am talking about.. i don't know but this is not only from what i've research to, but also based from my experience on how God works upon me and with people that i love
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What is the meaning of Love?... Though(?) question to be honest with you. To me I think that personally Love is not only a special bond you have with someone but something deeper.. hard to explain..I'm only 17 after all. But anyways I believe that Love is the feeling of closeness and oneness with you partner. The feeling that they will never leave you or betray even though you may have your doubts at times. This is what Love means to me.
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I've never experienced love and sometimes I doubt that I ever will, my emotions have always been distant I've never really felt hate or fear maybe irritation and apprehension but nothing any further but in my view love exists if for no other reason than we believe it does. Two people who are deeply in love can't find anything wrong with each other but if the love dries up things that they thought were special about their partners begin to irritate them, Love is by its nature mist like, you cannot hold it sometimes it's there and other times it vanishes suddenly. Love is a part of us, we cannot control it we can only accept it.
Love to me personally is simply the relationship any Christian has to his God. Other than that, I don't really believe love exist, and that ideas around it are just misconceptions surrounding our biology.
Love to me is like Art - it can't be rushed. If you rush, it will go wrong. It could just turn out to be a 'Arty Mistake', lol, but it could be the end for that piece. I'm not saying love has to be perfect - there is always going to be that little complication, but its best to have everything right...
Love can be 100% real, but first you need to find the right person. Its always nice to have a good looking partner, but only if you enjoy being with that person - in short, if you are going to be as shallow to go for the good looking people, you will never find true love, because in 8/10 cases like this, this person is more interested in how much gel they have left than you.
Better still, why go out to find love? Studies show that true love is mainly found by total accident! I mean, my friends mum and dad got together because she nearly knocked him of his bike while she was in the car, lol!
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The meaning of love?
Well, in my experience with love... My boyfriend is like... one of my best friends. We laugh so much together and we talk almost constantly. We're just really compatible and really similar. We have similar interests and we're just really close.
So to me, love is somebody who is like a best friend to you, who you can tell anything about. Love is somebody that doesn't ignore you, and if he's not able to be there for a few days, he does all he can to be in contact with you to let you know he's okay. Phone/net/letters, etc.
Love doesn't need to be clingy because love is already so close that they don't really need a lot of time apart. Love is having the odd arguement here and there, but compromise is always found in the end.
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"Love is a word. What matters are the connections the word implies." -Rama-Kandra
Love can mean many different things, depending on who uses it and who or what it's referring to. For me, I would say that I love my girlfriend of 3 years. She's special to me and anything that would happen to her would deeply hurt me for possibly the rest of my life. It's that I care so much about her that I'm able to say that I love her.
When people say things like "I LOVE french toast!", it's more of an exaggeration to claim that you really like french toast more than other breakfast items.
As for it being real - it's up to you on that. You can make anything you want real in your mind as long as you believe in it.
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Love is one of the most very special things in the world. I was not a true believer in true love until I met my girlfriend(who I will propose to soon). I thought love was just a stupid fairy tale that was found in all disney movies. However, the way we met was almost like it was meant to be. A lot of things happened for us to meet eachother(I won't go into details). But ever since then, I've always known that she is my soulmate. A lot of people go by the theory "theres plenty of fish in the sea." But I truly believe "there is one person out there for everyone". So never give up, love truly exists. Most likely love will sneak up on you on a day that you least expect it. Never fight it....give into it.
I voted in the poll a long time ago, but never decided to post since I thought it was an odd topic. But I'll do it now since I've got five minutes.
I personally don't believe in love. Since I started thinking about it, I came up with this: there are the people you care about through familiarity or gratitude (family and friends), people you like (as in got along with), and people you don't like (opposite of the other). It just seems like when someone says they love another person, it's because there's something there that they agree with and can accept very easily. A person gets along with some people and then he or she doesn't get along with some others. I can't understand "true love" because of that logic. That person's "true love" is just someone they can get along with well enough to enjoy each others' company until they get so familiar with each other that they consider it love. There are millions of people out there, so one person is bound to find more than one "true love" that they can get along well enough with. But since there's a possibility of there being more than one "true love" for people, is it still true love? That's the problem I've got.
I haven't experienced love other than the deep caring you've got for friends and family. I'll say "I love you" to them all, but I don't think I mean it the way most of you guys define it. I'm really liking Chez Daja's answer though.
Getting along with others and caring for them is nice though. That's my version of love. I don't know what else to say right now.Originally Posted by Chez Daja
Wow you sound just like me before I met my girlfriend. I used to think like that before I met my girlfriend. A lot of people don't understand love, so they go out with people who they share interests with or get along with. But in reality, well at least for me there is only one who can make me feel the way my girlfriend feels. No woman would ever do the stuff with me that she does. No woman would ever love me the way she does. That's how I know what love is, and because of that I now believe in true love. I hope everybody experiences this.
I do believe in love, I have been turned down more times than accepted though. Most people believe that they are in love but actually in lust. People say that they are in love, but cheat on there partners. I was in love, but I was dumped for being too nice. I can not see how one can be to nice.
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i havnt felt loved for ages, to much bad history between me an my partner for true love to exist anymore
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Love for me exists in the feelings I have for those I care for.
Other people have summed it up quite nicely, but I thought I'd add my input anyways.
Love to me is feeling that much affection for someone as a person I'd be liable to do almost anything for them. There's a distant barrier for me between like and love. I love my greatest friends and even more so than they, my girlfriend and would sacrifice a lot for them if I needed to. Those I merely liked, I'd help out if I could, but I'd be less likely to go to further lengths.
I believe love is something in my mind and thoughts, but it most certainly exists for me. And love doesn't have to be a two way thing either. You can love people who hate you, and hate people who love you.
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I wanted to answer this, because you sound like I did when I was your age.
There's different levels of love that you've skipped here lovie. Family love is often unconditional, when you give to them, you expect nothing back; it's the same with your very best friends. Imagine your love as being a circle: your family and your best friends are right in the middle, and you'd die for them in a second, you're cool with lending them £20 and know they'll give you it back eventually so don't get too pissy; but maybe you do, because you know you can and all they'll do back is love you like you love them. It's familiarity, and it rules, especially when you're at uni and have to scrounge food money from family.
Romantic love lies a little further out. You'll find someone to share it with soon, or maybe not soon, but you will. You'll kiss and cuddle for a few months, thinking, 'Hey, this person's pretty cool. They like what I like and I feel like they could one day understand me, and I might understand them too. This is pretty cool.'
Then it sort of goes WOW I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU PLEASE NOW. Sometimes this happens before 'that person is pretty cool' but in those cases the relationship tends to die a Hobbesian death. The sex is probably excellent, but we're talking about love here.
Romantic love comes with time and understanding, and it is not instantly unconditional. It's different to every kind of love you've ever felt before, because this one makes you want to kiss the person in question. It makes you want to have them all to yourself, and it makes you want them to love you back. None of that is involved in family love, is it? You don't (or at least shouldn't) want to spend your time gazing into the eyes of your brother, you don't want to have them just for you, you don't want them to love you because you know they do anyway.
So, different levels of love make different kinds of love different. As for true love, well, if you feel that you really a love a person, it's true love. You can't fake it to yourself and believe me, if you're trying to convince yourself that you love someone because they love you, BACK OUT. Quit it then and there.
Every love you feel is true. Every time you fall in love, it's different; a lot of people here seem to skip that fact. Sometimes the feeling may be full of passion, speed; sometimes it's relaxed. And yes, sometimes it will be stronger than others, sometimes you'll just get along better with the person. You never know, you might hit lucky and stay with your first love for your whole life; but often it doesn't work like that.
Love is not patient, it is not kind, it's not understanding, it's not easy and lovely and constantly a ton of fun. Love is a tiff if you're half an hour late for a date, love is hearing the worst about yourself come from the mouth of the one you hold highest and responding in kind, love is miscommunication and panic, love is a relationship that takes more effort and maintenance than the Russian submarine fleet, love is crying and trying and praying all for this person.
But at the end of the day, they're worth it; and if they're not, move on.
It's a wonderful thing, but don't be fooled. It'll take you in its arms, sweep you away, and then drop you in the middle of nowhere in the rain.
And why do we put up with all of this, just for that person? Why do we demand so much of them and them of us? Because it's romantic love. Put a lot in, get a lot out. When you're together and happy, there really is nothing better; when you wake up together, it's the best thing in the world. It just takes a lot of effort.
One of my best friends lives by the motto 'There's no such thing as a free lunch.' She's never been in love, but is well prepared.
You live for them, and you would die for them. They have the power to make you in one moment the happiest person ever, and in the next moment the saddest. But you put up with it because they are themselves, and you love them; and when you do the same to them they deal with it, for you are you.
I hope I have demostrated that applying logic to love is like applying Biology to Creative Writing. It doesn't work, since the two have nothing to do with one another. Love is by definition irrational.
Here's the main point, dearheart. Don't analyse it to death, because that'll just piss you off. Wait till it gets you, flow with it, don't fight it.
I hope I've been useful Bleachfandearheart. Good luck.
Aw man....Pablo Honey, now you've got me wanting to believe in love.
It just seems so illogical for any person to be able to do the kinds of things they do for love. I understand the concept with family since it's your family. You have no choice most of the time but to love them and take anything they do (unless it's incredibly horrible). That's just how it is. It's like they've got an automatic love meter from you that takes a lot to lower, but very little to raise. A person is born with family, so you kind of have to love them.
With strangers though, I can't understand how that would work out. You can make friends and become really close. I have a best friend that I think of and love as a sister because I've known her so long. I don't really see how you can really develop a love for someone that's different than that.
If love starts off as friendship, how does it become romantic love? Is there a process you can go through each time to force it to pop out? I see how it isn't par t of family love, but it sounds confusing...I don't think I like it very much. I can't see the point of going through so much for one person unless they deserve it (because I care about them just that much). The only time I feel like a person ever deserves that kind of understanding or affection though is when they're family or a good friend.
I don't understand! If love is so painful, why do people bother with it?
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