ALIENS!! Real or Not??

[TheTrueSephiroth]

they have got to be real in my oppinion! how can we really have the only planet that has adapted to support life!!? They may not b any more inteligent than what we are but there's a high chance really that they are! when you look at it we don't really know much about our lives or plant or universe(s)!! so what's all your oppinions!?!?

[Kain FF4]

Aleins exist! what are the chances that out of billions of planets, Earth is the only one to have life on it. about a billion to 1

[Chez Daja]

TheTrueSephiroth, this is a very spammy way to open a thread, however, I'll let it stand.

Kain FF4, you're being warned for spam... you've had a warning in the past, and you're getting another one now... you really should look at the rules, that way, you won't get any warnings in future.

In any case, if you have any problems, PM me. Replies to this post will be warned. Carry on with the topic, please. And no more spam, thanks.

[dimmufan]

I think there was another thread similar to this one, but oh well.
I do believe in aliens. To think that Earth is home to the only lifeforms in this vast expansive universe would be quite egotistical. With so many other planets that are similar to Earth's atmosphere and gravity I think it would be impossible for us to be the only lifeforms in this universe. I was watching a program on the Science Channel the other night and there was this scientist who wanted to find the oldest lifeform on this planet. He dug deep into the Earth's crust and found fossilized bacteria that dated back to about 600,000 years after the Earth was formed. This bacteria was approximately 3.9 billion years old. So it doesn't take long after planet formation for life to flourish. Besides if we are the only lifeforms in this universe then it would seem like an awful waste of space.

[Mr Spike]

I think there was another thread similar to this one, but oh well.
I do believe in aliens. To think that Earth is home to the only lifeforms in this vast expansive universe would be quite egotistical.

Very true. The laws of averages say that there MUST be something out there.

However, i think that most people are thinking in terms of what us humans are like, or other animals on this planet - "life" in the universe could be vastly different. There could be creatures that survive in vastly contrasting environments to what we do - millions of degrees celcius or similar. Than and just small lifeforms - bactaria or some sort.

I like to think that there are intelligent life forms in the universe - similar to us. Perhaps one day we'll make contact with them and humankind will accellerate vastly with new technologies and similar.

Also, if you are interested in this kind of thing, realy Reg Presley's book, "Wild Things". It's very interesting and has a ton of supposed sightings of aliens and government coverups and such. Very reccommended.

[OnOneRyder]

Good point Mr.Spike, interaction with other civilizations could add greatly to our technical know how. To see someone else's solution to a problem like energy consumption, war, disease could completely reshape our planet for the good.

What do you guys think about hostile lifeforms? Signs was an excellent movie as it approached the thought of an invasion very strategically. Personally I don't believe if hostile life wanted to take our planet that we would even know or could do anything about it. They'd be much better off placing some sort of constructed virus into our ecosystem which would be much safer. Our reliance on natural resources is far too great, and one day they will run out. We can talk about conservation but there will be a point someday where we'll simply be too populated to support everyones needs with what we have, and we'll have to either stop reproducing or look elsewhere. Ones own needs would certainly take priority over those of another's and if intelligent life exist elsewhere I'm sure this has happened somewhere distant before.

[Lilium]

I believe that, somewhere in the universe, there are probably thousands or even millions of planets with life on them. I don't have any real proof, but I do have arguments as to why this is.

For one thing, seeing just how massive the universe is, why would we be the only life forms to spring up. Why would Earth be the only planet with life?

Another thing, aliens would probably have a much different body from us, so a planet without water or more nitrogen instead of more oxygen could have life on it. It's just a matter of how life develops and such. ..did that make any sense?

Those are my main two reasons, anyway.

As for the whole Area 51 thing, there probably have been one or two encounters of aliens, and Area 51 probably studied and covered up their find, but overall, I really doubt that Area 51 has much activity going on.

As for people who claim to have encountered aliens, most of them are just blowing it out of their ass. There are a few that more than likely have encountered aliens, but because of all the fakes, no one will believe the true ones.

[Dark One]

they have got to be real in my oppinion! how can we really have the only planet that has adapted to support life!!? They may not b any more inteligent than what we are but there's a high chance really that they are! when you look at it we don't really know much about our lives or plant or universe(s)!! so what's all your oppinions!?!?

Hahaha are u jokeing!! This thread has got to be a joke. Um is there any prof at all that they are real NO but there is tons of prof there not. Like has anyone ever realy seen one and im not talking about a ufo. Also if u think there is a god then you know he says that we are the only ones but not all think like me. So no i don't think there is any chance that there real. Even if i did not think there was a god. There is no prof what so ever there real. If there was then we would be sending ship and other things into space more and more not less and less like we are doing.

Also chez i agree with you. Umm put more detail into the first post man and more of y you think there real!! Also i think this should be in General Chat caws it don't look like an Intellectual Discussion.

Thanks
Dark One

[Rob`]

Hahaha are u jokeing!! This thread has got to be a joke. Um is there any prof at all that they are real NO but there is tons of prof there not. Like has anyone ever realy seen one and im not talking about a ufo. Also if u think there is a god then you know he says that we are the only ones but not all think like me. So no i don't think there is any chance that there real. Even if i did not think there was a god. There is no prof what so ever there real. If there was then we would be sending ship and other things into space more and more not less and less like we are doing.

Also chez i agree with you. Umm put more detail into the first post man and more of y you think there real!! Also i think this should be in General Chat caws it don't look like an Intellectual Discussion.

Thanks
Dark One

Several things

Firstly if English is your 1st language then don't type like a moron, if it's not your 1st language then ignore that.

Secondly there is a big difference between proof and evidence, if something has been proven to have happened then there is no way it could not have happened, what you posted is evidence which suggests there are no aliens, even at that it weak evidence, definitely not proof.

Thirdly it takes light trillions of years to travel across the universe, basically just because they haven't come here yet and the fact that we haven't found them yet doesn't mean they don't exist. And besides how do we know they're so much more advanced than us that they can go faster than light.

Fourthly what makes you think we're sending less ships into space? True we haven't bothered sending many people to the moon for a while but we are sending shuttles to other planets to gather information, it's just it's unlikely that we'll find any aliens in our lifetime so there's no point in sending shuttles to likely candidates, all they can try to do it pick up radio waves from likely areas and hope that any aliens are as advanced as us.

Finally don't bring god into arguments like this, it's a worthless way to argue.

[Frank_White]

Hahaha are u jokeing!! This thread has got to be a joke. Um is there any prof at all that they are real NO but there is tons of prof there not. Like has anyone ever realy seen one and im not talking about a ufo. Also if u think there is a god then you know he says that we are the only ones but not all think like me. So no i don't think there is any chance that there real. Even if i did not think there was a god. There is no prof what so ever there real. If there was then we would be sending ship and other things into space more and more not less and less like we are doing.

Also chez i agree with you. Umm put more detail into the first post man and more of y you think there real!! Also i think this should be in General Chat caws it don't look like an Intellectual Discussion.

Thanks
Dark One

Woah... where to start with this one.

Well, let's see.

First of all, you call into question the existance of aliens. Fair enough.

Um is there any prof at all that they are real NO but there is tons of prof there not. Like has anyone ever realy seen one and im not talking about a ufo.

And why not? Who indeed has ever seen a real live alien? Someone with a genuine photograph, a videotape, genuine proof?(the word has two o's. Not ****ing hard.).

Then you commit your first no-no;

Also if u think there is a god then you know he says that we are the only ones but not all think like me. So no i don't think there is any chance that there real.

Remember that word you couldn't or wouldn't take the time to spell, "proof"? It comes into play here. You believe in an unseen, unheard, unproven creator, yet you demand hard proof regarding the existance of extra-terrestrials? Dark One, do you know what the word "hypocrite" means? You're willing to throw all your belief into the idea that there's some big, spiritual Daddy waiting to spank you at the end of Eternity. Yet is the idea that somewhere out there, somehow, life may exist on a planet outside the domain of God as you know it so unfathomable? I wouldn't be surprised if it was, if your post is anything to consider. Or is the thought so disgusting and blasphemous to you and your god that merely considering it would be a sin?

Please, I'm not trying to bait you into some religious battle. That can happen elsewhere.

Also chez i agree with you. Umm put more detail into the first post man and more of y you think there real!!

You realize all the things you call for... well...

caws it don't look like an Intellectual Discussion.[/

It was until you showed up.

[Momo Mastermind]

Woah... where to start with this one.

Well, let's see.

First of all, you call into question the existance of aliens. Fair enough.



And why not? Who indeed has ever seen a real live alien? Someone with a genuine photograph, a videotape, genuine proof?(the word has two o's. Not ****ing hard.).

Then you commit your first no-no;



Remember that word you couldn't or wouldn't take the time to spell, "proof"? It comes into play here. You believe in an unseen, unheard, unproven creator, yet you demand hard proof regarding the existance of extra-terrestrials? Dark One, do you know what the word "hypocrite" means? You're willing to throw all your belief into the idea that there's some big, spiritual Daddy waiting to spank you at the end of Eternity. Yet is the idea that somewhere out there, somehow, life may exist on a planet outside the domain of God as you know it so unfathomable? I wouldn't be surprised if it was, if your post is anything to consider. Or is the thought so disgusting and blasphemous to you and your god that merely considering it would be a sin?

Please, I'm not trying to bait you into some religious battle. That can happen elsewhere.



You realize all the things you call for... well...



It was until you showed up.

You obviously can't see the quotes he was replying to, however I just needed to note that this made me laugh pretty hard.

Moving on, I do believe there's a VERY high chance of life somewhere else "out there". To believe otherwise would just be foolish... or extremely super-intelligent... but that would call for super-intelligence... and it doesn't seem like that sort of power exists in our world

Anyway, MANY of these posts have made me laugh, thank you to everyone who added to my chuckles.

It's extremely vain to think that we're the only ones in this universe. Also, those those who continuously spew such shit as "Well why haven't we seen them yet!?" or "Wouldn't someone have found them in their space ships."... perhaps, maybe just for a moment let's step out of your little box and think about this, shall we? Human beings are fairly new, as intelligent life forms go. It isn't impossible to perhaps consider the possibility that the life forms on distant planets aren't as advanced as we are, if they're intelligent AT ALL. Perhaps we really are the most advanced beings in the entire universe, perhaps not.

Anyway, facts lead us to believe, through logical means, that if we really ARE the only ones in the entire universe, then we're pretty damn lucky- and we're realy one in a billion.

[Takishi]

Aliens aren't real so anyone shouldn't be freaking out about it. We'll be fine and don't worry about them at all. They say that there are aliens around but I don't beileve it. I think it's all a joke and they're trying to fool us.

[TheTrueSephiroth]

how can aliens not exsist?? really if you look at how big space is, which you can't really, surely there's atleast one planet there which can support life!! i mean someone has even come up with the drake equation which proves that aliens exsit!! also there was a cop who lived in my area quite a few years ago now!! one day he went missing, then returned the next! in his face he look worried and scared, but yet wouldn't tell anyone wat had happened!! then one day he was hipnotised to see wat was wrong with him and he told them the hole story about bein abducted by aliens!!

[Emerald620]

I say there are no aliens to which that we see of like in movies, but definately other living organisms like humans somewhere. Seriously think about it, look at the universe it practically infinite, now look at how many solar systems that are out there like ours. Whats to stop people saying hey, there's such thing as another planet earth. Cause the chance of being another habital planet is really great.


Sorry for any confusing english i have

[ChloChloAriadne]

I say that they are definitely real.

There's pretty much infinite universe out there... And people believe that earth's the only planet with life on it? Out of billions?

That doesn't make sence to me.

So yeah... I don't think we're the only ones. And when you think about it, every now and then there's a big UFO sighting.. And all these rumours about the government trying to cover it up. What's to say that the rumours aren't true?

I mean.. Look at Roswell. Something crashed, and there were absolute thousands of people saying that the night it crashed they had seen a UFO. The area closed and it was released that it was a weather balloon... Now, that doesn't seem right to me. If it was infact a weather balloon, why so secretive about it?

And yes, people report UFO sightings every day.. But these ones were so adamant that Roswell is STILL a massive tourist area for people looking for that kind of thing.

And I don't just think there are 'aliens' out there.. I think that there's intelligent life out there, as opposed to just.. Things that're living. As said above, I can't believe that in a universe so big/infinite that we're the only things around. And I don't just think it's one other planet.. Tens, hundreds, possibly millions of communities of other intelligent life forms are out there.

We may never find them, though. And I think.. That's probably a good idea. There would be no way to communicate whatsoever, and although they're intelligent, their form of ethics and behaviour would be entirely different.

And you know what? If they live somewhere else, they probably wouldn't survive in earth's climate anyway.

[TheTrueSephiroth]

well these 'film aliens' are 'based' on wat people have seen supposebly!! but i still believe that they'll look so much different!! i recon they will be more intelectual than us because when you look at it nobody really know's much on earth in comparison to the infinite size of space!! n i'm finnaly glad i've found some people who agree with about aliens!!

[Bleachfangirl]

I think aliens are real. Not at all like like those science fictional ones, but like Emerald said, other organisms. There might be aliens that actually are like those movie ones, but no one can really be sure.

Maybe the ufo sitings are real, I don't care. If anything out there has the intelligence to make a cool ship like that to fly around the universe to other planets, kudos to them. I wish we could do that so someone could bring me back some asteroids for science class. Those funky things aren't so interesting to me. I think aliens are real. Their space ships, not so much.

There's evidence that the other planets in our solar system can't really hold life, but there might be other life forms out there that don't need all the things humans and other animals do to survive. Maybe all our wonderful scientists overlooked that and there really are little Martians.

Okay, my ranting is confusing me, so I'll just stop there. But all together, I believe in aliens, so don't jump me for it...please.

[TheTrueSephiroth]

the main problem related to there being aliens is the pressance of water!! AS FAR AS WE KNOW all life forms need water to survive!! but wats sayin that another planet doesn't have some form of water atleast!! or realatin to bleachfangirl they don't need water to survive?!?!

[Master Garland]

Aliens Do exist. First of all we live in a Solar System that was sopposedly Created from the main indgrediants of Hydrogen, and Helium, that condensed, became a heavy mass of hot unstable energy, that then exploded and left a Condensed high mass sphere of energy the Sun. The remaining gases not fused in the sun spread out and changed atomical composition from temperature changes causing Atoms to vibrate at different frequencies and all that stuff that I dont feel like delving to deeply on. So which then after millions of years we have planets both Gasy and Terrestrial and there is Earth which has our Magical beautiful water which is created from Two Charged hydrogen atoms(keep in mind that hydrogen is the suns main energy source and indgridient) and one Oxygen ect then as was said before maybe 6 hundred million years later life starts on this lovely planet. And when you realize that all stars are mainly hydrogen based masses then it should become more prelavent that life exists on other planets especialy if one of those planets was basically the same size as earth around 12.500 miles in diameter the same distance from the sun as us 93.500.000 miles or for short 1 Astronomical Unit(AU) with a similar sized sun than there is a high chance that life will evolve there as well. Also sense there are probably trillions of stars with around 5-9 planets per star so lets say 5-9 trillion planets and 1/3 of those were rocky so around 1.7-3.0 trillion of them and 1/3 of those were similar to earth(able to sustain life) so 633.000.000-1.000.000.000 of them. So as you can see from the math if everthing in the universe operates the same way than 633.000.000- 1.000.000.000 planets should have life so there may be lots of Aliens.

[isntitlovely]

Of course they're real. How would it even be theoretically possible that we'd be the only planet in the universe to have life on it?

Now, whether or not they're super intellegent beings who randomly come to our planet...that I highly doubt.

[some guy]

Aliens...well, we would probably have to figure out were the supposed big bang started to decide what planets were created in what order, you would think the planet thats been around the longest would be the furthest in technology, but although our technology isn't all that great it maybe be possible one day for intergalactic transportation. (note I don't believe that moon landing was real)
But think about it, if fish can live underwater, and trees take in carbon dioxide, many things could adapt to live practically anywhere.

[Confession]

Peronally I believe that it is Unimaginable for there not to be other lifeforms on different planets. People who dont believe that their are is because we cannot survive on their planets, but can we survive underwater? No. But yet we know that there are lifeforms in the ocean.
Also just becasue we dont have the technology (i dont believe in the moon landing either) to go into outer space doesn't mean others dont. In terms of creation other planets were here long before we were and the fact that we are here, supports the facts of things being on other planets

[Meeno]

i think aliens are real. 'cause people can't be the only living beings in space, 1st - theres no one in our galaxy except us - people, and when you look at the space.. well, it's too big and doesen't have any borders actually. so, my opinion - aliens do exist. =)

[dsfinalfantasy12]

i think aliens are real. 'cause people can't be the only living beings in space, 1st - theres no one in our galaxy except us - people, and when you look at the space.. well, it's too big and doesen't have any borders actually. so, my opinion - aliens do exist. =)

Ya just what Meeno said there might be a possibility that we aren't the only ones in space. No has really explored space good enough to say there arent Aliens, so I think Aliens are real.

[bosola]

I think aliens are real. I don't think they technically have to be anything beyond micro-organisms, but to assume that Earth is the only planet in the whole universe that can harbour life, and also to assume that the only life that can exist have to be supported in the same ways that we are is pretty arrogant.

Extra-terrestrials, therefore, probably do exist...

It's life, Jim...

[Jesus Christ]

They probably are real, as anyone with a brain and willingness to bring out the armchair mathmatician shit about "Oh well, probabilities!" will tell you.

Whole other thing when it comes to whether or not they have found us or will find us, or if we will find them or if we already have. The same vast number that you hold onto to validate your belief that aliens exist tells us that we're probably not going to meet up with them.

And if we do, do you really think we would communicate well? Humans don't communicate well with other humans that come from far away.

And if by some chance they do find us, why wouldn't they just destroy us? They've mastered interstellar travel. They are beyond us. It's like an anthill and workers building a 10 lane highway. Do the ant's have the ability to understand the idea of the 10 lane highway? Can they do anything to stop it? And will the workers think twice before destroying the ants?

Spoiler: No.

[Hjortkayre]

The chances are, there are aliens out there, and I believe it. Is it really possible that Earth, one of countless numbers of planets, is the only one adapted to life?
Right, think. Say the average planets around each start was five, because some will have lots, some have none. In one inch of the sky, just one inch, there are around 200,000 stars. Or maybe 200 million, I can't remember which. That makes an immesurable number of starts, with an immesurable number of planets. There has to be life out there somewhere, even if it is only plant life!

[Dimi]

Sorry, that post above me cracked me up. >.>

Anyways, on a serious note I do believe aliens do exist. Not your Hollywood type aliens like someone in this thread has mentioned, but I do believe that we're not alone in this universe. Its too big and scientifically it wouldn't make sense that somehow out of all planets we're the only living organisms in the universe. But even if we are the only ones that kinda would make me actually believe the whole religion aspect then more so with science.

But I won't get into the whole religion thing. I just think that we haven't found the right "technology" and they could be far out of our solar system for all we know.

And with the whole UFO sightings in Roswell and such, I believe that maybe aliens are more technology advanced then us. We know more about our planet itself then the universe itself. And for all we know, there's always that possibility that they do exist.

[Walter Sobchak]

I don't know how someone can say that they don't believe there is any extraterrestrial life.

Gliese 581c is believed to have liquid water. Also, the temperature is calculated between 22 and 100 degrees Fahrenheit, but this does not take into account what sort of atmosphere it may have. Europa is believed to possibly have an underground ocean. Etc, etc.

There is something else out there. We cant be that egotistical that we believe we are all that there is.

[Ol' Fartsy]

they have got to be real in my oppinion! how can we really have the only planet that has adapted to support life!!? They may not b any more inteligent than what we are but there's a high chance really that they are! when you look at it we don't really know much about our lives or plant or universe(s)!! so what's all your oppinions!?!?

Of course aliens exist! Just look at those coming over from Mexico and Cuba. As far as the ETs, it's possible that we could have them. Look at the US tabloids a few years back, one of that tabloids said that Sen. Orrin Hatch was an ET.