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    Quote Originally Posted by Govinda View Post
    Maybe they want to stop being your enemies, and want to stop fighting with you?
    Iran suddenly loves us? Jordan wants to be an ally? Vietnam?

    Moreso, Israel wants Obama to win? South Korea loves Obama? Hahahahahahahahahah.

    Face it, the map is extremely biased. It's from a very liberal source that is mostly visited by liberal people. It's going to reveal only liberal aspects.
    Macedonia want McCain, like a lot of the eastern bloc, because they think he's their best shot at getting America to go to war with Russia, which would benefit nobody, but would make them feel a little less victimised.
    Macedonia and Georgia are the only countries that McCain would win, according to the map. (And possibly one other that's incredibly small.) So the Eastern Bloc, according to the map, are prettymuch all going to Obama, too.

    And they would have no reason to think McCain wants war with Russia. Only that Obama wants to gut the military and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
    Bush didn't just screw America over; he screwed us over too.
    Bush didn't screw America over either. Try again.
    You are the hegemon, and for the past 8 years have been an irresponsible hegemon; as such, your standing in the world has sunk and sunk and sunk.
    The job of the President of the United States is to lead the United States, not make the U.S. popular with all the other kids at school.
    China are about to take over as the primary military power ...
    China has greater military technology than the U.S. does? That's surprising.
    ... and the Western economy has been hit far harder than theirs in this recent economic mess. Obama is the man to negotiate America's way out of being pushed into second place; McCain is the guy who'd start a war over it. And nobody wants that.
    You think McCain would start a war because China might have a more powerful military?

    That's, first, the assumption -- baseless assumption -- that McCain would "start a war".

    Then, the baseless assumption that McCain would start a war with a country because he feels threatened by it.

    Then, the baseless assumption that McCain -- or anybody -- would START a war with a country BECAUSE they're more powerful.
    Palin's more qualified?
    Than Obama? Let's see. Palin's got six years as Mayor and two as Governor. That's a total of eight years of executive experience. Obama spent seven years as a State Senator, where he accomplished absoluetly nothing, and was elected to the U.S. Senate over a man who accepted the opposing nomination three months before the election. Once he got into office in 2005, he accomplished absolutely nothing until, after less than 180 working days, he announced his candidacy for President.
    She managed to balloon the debt of a tiny little town, and then of a state with a population less than many continental American towns.
    And the will of the voters apparently has nothing to do with how much they spend, right?
    I get the (frankly tiny) smoking habit. But what does Obama being a black man have to do with his health?
    Black people have a lower life expectancy. Black people who smoke have an even lower life expectancy. According to some liberals who think Obama will be assassinated if he's elected because America is racist, black people in public office have an even lower life expectancy. If he croaks in office, Biden will be President. Biden is not only a dumbass, he's also old -- and if his life comes to an end, Pelosi will end up in office.

    And if Nancy Pelosi ends up as the President of the United States, none of my friends will ever see me again. Either because I will move, or be in prison for assassination.
    What can a presedential candidate do to help a country? Nothing.
    What should be Obama's first priority -- his attempt at the Presidency, or his JOB AS A SENATOR?

    I wasn't referring only to what he's done while he has been running for President. I was referring to his entire political career. He has no substantial accomplishments under his belt. Nothing. He tagged on with a few things, then voted "Present" on plenty of others.
    He has advanced his career, yes, while taking a few years to work as a grassroots community organiser on $50,000 a year.
    First, where Obama was isn't "grassroots". Second, he made more than $50k/yr. And third, he didn't "take a few years", he did that at the beginning of his career.
    I still think McCain's choice of Palin had nothing to do with her strengths. It was a Karl Rove choice designed to bring the rank and files Republicans into the fold, and to attract scared independents. And a completely failed attempt at wooing Hillary manaics.
    Palin was a good choice for McCain, for reasons I've already explained. She attracted conservatives who didn't like McCain because he's too liberal. She made the party more palatable for independents for want to vote against Obama. And she attracts some of the Hillary voters who think that voting for a woman is more important than voting for somebody for their issues.
    They wouldn't be a team in office. Europe would weep.
    Because if the United States President doesn't do things in the best interests of Europe, what should he look out for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Koda View Post
    OK, now I'll put my two cents worth in. First of all, the Republicans have now turned this into a smear campaign because they ARE behind in the polls and they are reaching for straws.
    Democrats are ahead in the polls, and they're still running attack ads. That's politics.
    She is smearing a man as a terrorist, who was 8 years old when Ayers was a radical.
    When did she say Obama was a terrorist?

    The fact remains that Obama was extremely foolish for his association with a known terrorist.
    Well now, let's check our books here.....yep...roads to nowhere, a man loses his job because Palin is pissed off because it's her sisters exhusband, and she has the power to cost him his job. Abusing a little power is she?
    She could have fired him for any reason, or for no reason at all. That was her right. She didn't "abuse her power" -- not that it stops the accusations. Apparently, to some people, driving while intoxicated and threatening the governor's life is perfectly acceptable thing to do for a state trooper.
    Then we have McCain....he doesn't want to end the war in Iraq. Why?
    Oh, something about liberating thirty million people.
    Palin says we would be throwing in the white flag if our toops withdraw. How is that?
    Remember Vietnam? Winning in Vietnam, losing in Washington? We withdrew troops, and communists swept through the country, slaughtering people who opposed them, and took over like we were never there. You think that wouldn't happen in Iraq? History repeats itself.
    First of all we are in a war that should NEVER have even started. McCain swore there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq....hmmmm...nope. He was wrong.
    There were WMDs. Of course, not if you ignore what Saddam was hiding for more than a decade, not if you ignore the convoys leaving the country immediately prior to the invasion, and not if you ignore the WMDs we have actually found. But yeah, other than all that, you might be right.
    We did capture AND execute Saddam. There...we won!
    Destroying leadership is winning, sure -- but if we left after that, we'd have to come in and do it again.
    We were suppose to be looking for BinLaden....remember...the guy that organized 9/11.
    It's not a war against bin Laden, it's a war on terrorism. And Saddam's Iraq was an ally of terrorism.
    Now McCain said himself during the last debate that HE knows how to capture BinLaden..He knows where he is...HE knows how to do it. Well then why in the hell has he been keeping this great secret for seven years????
    I dunno -- is the way to do it invading our allies, like Obama wants to do?
    McCain is all about war. I don't know about any of you, but I'm tired our troops dying for what? Oh yes...terrorisim that IS NOT in Iraq!
    I just wanted to make sure this was visible again. The candidate that has NOT advocated war against our allies is "all about war". Funny.
    McCain wants to tax us ...our health insurance for instance and give HUGE tax cuts to the big Corporate Companies and of course the CEO's!
    McCain wants to give out money for health insurance, and to tax what we pay otherwise. 95% of people will get more money for their healthcare. I bet none of the Obama/Biden commercials you've seen mention that.

    And wait, do you mean that McCain wants to let people KEEP the money they MAKE?!? OH NO!
    Again...it doesn't trickle down.
    So you think that making production, transportation, and marketing of goods more expensive -- as Obama would do -- wouldn't make goods more expensive?
    AND he wants to put a Freeze on EVERYTHING except Military and Veterans. Well now, I support our troops completely, and I do wish safety for all and pray they all come home safely....BUT...what about our elderly, Social Security, Medicare......the Republican party has lost a lot of respect from me.
    He mentioned, once, a freeze on new spending. Not only will this save billions upon billions of dollars, it will stop pork and special-interest vote buying.
    And just for the record, when Clinton was in office, we had a surplus of cash......then came the Bush's (both of them!)
    Clinton had a "surplus" because he gutted the military and intelligence budgets -- which weakened the country, leaving it open to terrorist attacks -- and fabricated numbers and played shell games with Social Security.

    Once again, I don't like Bush's fiscal policies. But once again, using Bush to argue against McCain is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post

    Democrats are ahead in the polls, and they're still running attack ads. That's politics.When did she say Obama was a terrorist?
    Where have you been? It's been all over the news this week. She has been campaigning all over the place calling him a terrorist! Watch the news!

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