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    I feel sorry for this guy. There's no possible way he can live up to the lofty expectations that this obamania has produced.

    He seems like a practical guy to me. There's not going to be as much change as many think, I predict. Getting out of Iraq, heh. If he can actually accomplish that smoothly, I'll be dumbfounded.

    But who knows.
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    Sir Prize Obamarama Sinister's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I feel sorry for this guy. There's no possible way he can live up to the lofty expectations that this obamania has produced.

    He seems like a practical guy to me. There's not going to be as much change as many think, I predict. Getting out of Iraq, heh. If he can actually accomplish that smoothly, I'll be dumbfounded.

    But who knows.
    Depending on what you expect, that's very true. I was talking with Daniel, my roommate, who seems to think "change" will happen within three months.

    I expect that Obama will be better than John McCain and that he is already better than George Bush.

    Sometimes it's not about change or hope...sometimes it's about minimalism and damage control. So long as you accomplish damage control, everything else is gravy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    Depending on what you expect, that's very true. I was talking with Daniel, my roommate, who seems to think "change" will happen within three months....I expect that Obama will be better than John McCain and that he is already better than George Bush.
    He's been in office for less than one day, how is he "better" than Bush? What has he done? He gave a good speech, screwed up on the Oath, and that's the extent of his Presidency. Here you are talking down about your roommate for thinking Obama will make a huge difference within three months, and you say that he's made a difference within one day.

    Quote Originally Posted by James D. View Post
    It really is the complete opposite. Because of the situation Bush left, Obama can do a passable job and be labeled a great President.
    So, so, so true. Not so much because of the situation Bush left, but because of the ignorant populace's pure hatred of Bush, no matter how ignorant it is, that any Democrat could step into that office and be praised.

    American History is full of average Presidents (Jefferson, Roosevelt, Reagan) who looked great because of what they inherited.
    Reagan didn't inherit much, but he made quite the difference. If you want a recent example of a poor-to-average President praised over what they inherited, look at Clinton.

    Then again, if you want a recent example of a poor-to-average President insulted over what they inherited, look at Bush. Weak and struggling economy, vulnerable national security, looming housing market crash ... granted, Bush didn't do much to fix some of it, and even made some of it worse, but there's no doubt that Clinton dropped quite a bit into Bush's lap.

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    The hysteria is what will help him along. His most ardent supporters (me), would not criticize him if he killed an infant, and since Obama supporters are so passionate, that will help him in the long run.
    Don't forget about playing the race card and insulting anyone who dares speak against him. That'll happen a lot, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    He's been in office for less than one day, how is he "better" than Bush? What has he done? He gave a good speech, screwed up on the Oath, and that's the extent of his Presidency. Here you are talking down about your roommate for thinking Obama will make a huge difference within three months, and you say that he's made a difference within one day.
    I didn't say he made a difference. You need a Sinister's Reading Comprehension 101 course. That's okay. I don't mind taking the time to help. Here's how we do it:

    I expect that Obama will be better than John McCain and that he is already better than George Bush.
    There is no implication either explicit or implicit in there that equals "difference." I know the small details may escape you. But to say that he is already better than Bush doesn't mean he has made a difference. Bush made a tremendous difference and Obama hasn't. That much is true. Which is better, the difference Bush has made and the difference Obama hasn't, is opinion. Perhaps the purport of my words is beginning to hit you. Difference=/Better If not, I can't help you further. But opinions are like you guys...everybody has one.

    Also, I wasn't talking down to my Roommate. Daniel is a bright and gifted individual and I like him. I highly suspect he is far more intelligent than you are. Even if he isn't, at least he has yet to twist words and dutifully attack people for their opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I feel sorry for this guy. There's no possible way he can live up to the lofty expectations that this obamania has produced.
    It really is the complete opposite. Because of the situation Bush left, Obama can do a passable job and be labeled a great President.

    American History is full of average Presidents (Jefferson, Roosevelt, Reagan) who looked great because of what they inherited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    I feel sorry for this guy. There's no possible way he can live up to the lofty expectations that this obamania has produced.

    He seems like a practical guy to me. There's not going to be as much change as many think, I predict. Getting out of Iraq, heh. If he can actually accomplish that smoothly, I'll be dumbfounded.

    But who knows.
    Bush signed 3 more years in Iraq, like a month or two ago so its going to be really hard for him to try and get us out. I dont think he can do much about it cause Bush was the president when he signed the papers for the 3 more years but I guess we will have to wait and see,I really hope he can bypass the 3 more years or something,my bro is going over again for the 3rd time it really sucks.
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