Iran (cue singing of 'Tehran is On Fire' to tune of Sex On Fire)

[rJ floW]

It will not matter...this is why CNN puts this garbage on, to get "introspective" thoughts...

but seriously

corruption will remain cause it won the election, either it was corruption due to authoritative power or the manipulation of that. so why worry?

Just worry about YOUR life and bettering YOUR stance!

thats how the "system" thrives" the best

[Walter Sobchak]

Ideally, the Iranian protesters will kidnap Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, and Rafsanjani. They should take them to the street and behead them. Hell, do it to Mousavi as well, because the funny thing is that the entire West thinks he is this great reformer, yet was allowed to run within the framework of the Iranian theocracy. He is one or two notches better than the tyrant, but the President of Iran is largely symbolic.

We could be seeing a transformation in the region, from the results in Lebanon to a possible overthrow of government in Iran. It is pretty stunning what a speech can Cairo can help accomplish.

[Govinda]

We could be seeing a transformation in the region, from the results in Lebanon to a possible overthrow of government in Iran. It is pretty stunning what a speech can Cairo can help accomplish.

Do you really think Obama's speech had something to do with this? Isn't it more the fact that 70% of the population are under 30 and pissed?

[Walter Sobchak]

Do you really think Obama's speech had something to do with this? Isn't it more the fact that 70% of the population are under 30 and pissed?

Of course the demographics were more of an effect. I leave the notion of speaking in absolutes to superheroes and clergymen. However, when you look at the results in Lebanon versus what many people expected (a takeover by Hezbollah), a variety of observers have given Obama's speech some credit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/wo...09lebanon.html
Lebanon feels the Obama effect | Simon Tisdall | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

So you logically have to take it one step further. Anyone who has followed the riots knows that the youth who have supported Mousavi have been connected through technology, whether it has been texting or the Internet. Surely such a savvy group has been a witness to the speech, as well as the results in Lebanon.

After all, the only real public opinion poll done in Iran had Ahmadinejad leading by a margin of 2 to 1, but as time went on analysts began to expect a Mousavi victory. Some of that was due to campaigning, as Mousavi's name spread across the country, but the President from the West who was not threatening to bombard them with belligerent soldiers, kill their sons, and rape their daughters had a hand in such an outcome.

Iran election scrutinized for 'Obama effect'
Wildcard in Iran election: Obama | csmonitor.com

Your Scottish standoffness may lead you to deny such ideas, but surely the high spirits that come to you as a result of your birthday will help you understand my conclusion.

[Sasquatch]

Ideally, the Iranian protesters will kidnap Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, and Rafsanjani. They should take them to the street and behead them

Yes, because an "ideal" situation would be the beheading of their potential leaders, instead of a peaceful transfer of power.

Hell, do it to Mousavi as well, because the funny thing is that the entire West thinks he is this great reformer, yet was allowed to run within the framework of the Iranian theocracy. He is one or two notches better than the tyrant, but the President of Iran is largely symbolic.

So they should kill the guy that's better, because he's not good enough?

We could be seeing a transformation in the region, from the results in Lebanon to a possible overthrow of government in Iran. It is pretty stunning what a speech can Cairo can help accomplish.

As has been mentioned, you don't honestly think that Obama's speech had a damn thing to do with this, do you? Surely, you're not that much of an ignorant sheep.

All I have to say is. DANG Iranian women are hot. Almost worth moving down just to hook up with one.

They are for a while, sure. 16-30 or so. Once they hit 35, though ... it ain't even like they go downhill, it's more like falling off a cliff. It's no wonder they make 'em wear the robes and veils.

Anyway, to all of those that speak crap about 'hating Iran'. What can I say. At least the people there have the balls to go out onto the streets, protest and force change. Quite unlike another country where their previous president was elected over what was essentially election fraud.

I'm sure you're smart enough to be talking about a country other than the United States, but I'm not sure which you're referring to. Considering the fact that, despite how many recounts have been done, the previous President of the United States won fair and square in both of his elections, including gaining the majority of the popular vote in 2004, something no Democrat had done for nearly thirty years.

Also, to those that still bang on about build nukes, obliterate Israel bla bla bla, Learn something.
Informed Comment

Hahahahah -- yes, because a liberal making unprovable accusations against "agents of the Right", completely refusing to give any evidence to support them, is completely credible.