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Isn't it convenient how people can come up with ideas about something that supposedly happened billions and billions of years ago, and hasn't happened since; something that is completely unverifiable and completely unobservable; something that violates the very laws of nature that it is supposedly ruled by ... and they "know" about it? But if you give them thousands of years and billions of examples of the human brain, they still don't know squat?

Apples and oranges mate.
People 'coming up with ideas' as placing taboos is religion's method. Reason and logic is sciences. Why do you think we've ended up where we are, with this pitiful god of gaps?

Jin's point was that you are trying to apply natural rules to a supernatural being. If God is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipowerful, rules of nature cannot apply to Him.

Our understanding of how the world works at a 'macro' level is complete enough to warrant the discarding of the god or 'supernatural' theory. It seems incredibly arrogant to say 'I don't understand it, so NO ONE EVER will be able to!'

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Apples and oranges mate.

Something we've been studying for thousands of years (and holds direct influence on medicine) versus something we've only had the technology to "study" for the past century, maybe (and makes no difference to anybody's daily life one way or another) ... wouldn't a logical viewpoint be that we should know more about the one we've been studying longer?

(That's the brain, by the way.)

People 'coming up with ideas' as placing taboos is religion's method.

You tried to call Jin out on an argument of "no you are", then turn around and try to use "no, that's what YOU do!"? Nice try, kid.

Reason and logic is sciences.

Sure. The problem is that many ideas claimed to be "science" are not scientific at all.

The first demand of a scientific theory is that it must be disproveable. If I say that water freezes at fifty degrees, that can be tested and disproven. If I say that we evolved from monkeys (or apes, or however it's being forced -- err, "taught" these days), tell me, how would one go about disproving that?

Why do you think we've ended up where we are, with this pitiful god of gaps?

"God of gaps" ... you mean Evolutionism, or Big Bang?

Our understanding of how the world works at a 'macro' level is complete enough to warrant the discarding of the god or 'supernatural' theory.

What "understanding"? The crap people make up and claim as "science"?

It seems incredibly arrogant to say 'I don't understand it, so NO ONE EVER will be able to!'

It's not "I don't understand it". It's "it is not understandable". It's not natural, it's supernatural. It's not meant to be understood.

There's a difference in believing that natural laws were broken by a supernatural power for the world and life to be created, and believing that natural laws were broken by a natural power for the world and life to be created.

Besides -- it's incredibly arrogant to say, "I think I understand how the world works at a 'macro' level, and I don't believe in God, so God must not exist!"