I could ramble for several paragraphs about things people arleady know, but I'm not gonna do that. Instead, I'm gonna go ahead and say that it goes both ways: people can be whiners, and they can also be douche bags. If you can't find a way to be neither of these for the majority of the time you are online, you are pretty much worthless to talk to, because either way, having a conversation with you would be like talking to a brick wall. Nothing constructive will come of it. Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

PS: Loaf, you are awesome.