Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post

Obamacare is the bill that was passed, not Obama's original plan. I'm really not sure how you can be a functional human being without the capacity to understand simple concepts like this -- I compared NHS with Obama's original plan. Neither of which are Obamacare.

"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House." -Barack Obama, 2003
Saying you want something, 5 years before you take office, is not a plan. Its something you want. In fact he didnt even say he wanted it, he just said he was a proponent (that means he likes it)

plan. noun. a scheme or method of acting, doing, proceeding, making, etc., developed in advance

Im guessing you will cling to the developed in advance part, but its not a scheme of acting.

and Obama has taken that opportunity to push through what will evolve into a single-payer system.
speculation. citation that he is planning this? (remember, a plan is a scheme or method of acting, doing, proceeding, making, etc.)

See, again, I'm not saying that Obamacare is a fully single-payer system. I haven't said that at all. But the fact remains that it does have a single-payer mandate for a certain portion of the population.
Source? (dont bother looking it doesnt have any single payer mandidate)

I haven't had the government "give" me any money at all.
But you did take it

So if it's a white guy, you think I'm fine with it, but if it's somebody fron Detroit or Cleveland -- hence, a minority -- then you think I'd just assume they're "lazy and ambitionless parasites".

Lemme guess ... next, you're going to try to BS your way into "well I never said it was a black guy from Detroit or Cleveland ..."

Is there anything else that you want to ignorantly assume about me? (By the way, I won't need to be "first in line" for Social Security, because I'm responsible enough to save for my own retirement.)
The point remains the same. Anything for you is okay, anything for anyone else is a waste. And you'll still be cashing those SS checks.
Anybody who pays their fair share into Social Security deserves to get their own money back out. Why wouldn't they?

You mean, you think "people like me" serve in a state or military position for long enough to earn a pension, then use their pension? Oh no, what freeloaders! Taking what they've earned, how dare they?
Again, the point remains the same. If you're going to complain about government handouts, then ya you're gonna be called out whenever you take government money.
Never cared for Beck, either.
Of course you dont. And you dont like Rand either and you dont Kiss Reagan's ass and you vote with an open mind, just like everyone else on the internet

According to whom?

Or are you truly ignorant enough to believe that somebody who works a public job is being "given" a paycheck?
Everyone gets government money. Its difficult to determine what is worth the money, and what isnt. John McCain may not think studying bear DNA is worth it. Other people might think that state employees are compensated too much. The decent thing to do is to take what money is yours, and stop complaining like a little girl whenever someone else gets something.

Not everybody in the private sector relies on government funding of some sort
source

Which is why you have federal grants going towards students who get accepted to college with ACT scores of 15 that will obviously not finish, federal funding going to farmers for leaving their fields empty, etc. etc.
source (this one is not common knowledge, so you have to source it. Idk wtf college you went to, but mine didnt have anyone who "obviously will not finish"

Actually, I didn't say how I paid for college because it's none of your business. But you know how I mentioned the millions upon millions of people who either work their way through college or work for a few years to save money, or both? I did both, which is why I had a job through every semester of college, which I didn't start until four years after I graduated high school. I didn't receive, nor did I request, one cent of taxpayer money, though I qualified for multiple types.
All colleges receive public money, even private ones (although they obviously do less). Example: NIH funding. And all that factors in to tuition costs

No, I haven't. I've said that they share many of the same principles, but I have not "actually said capitalism is one of its principles".
Honestly, is there a big difference? so what if you havent. its still disgusting