THE FFVI LIST THREAD! (magic, techs, espers, etc.)

[Dawezy]

Ive seen it many times, people asking about.. "when does xxxx learn a spell, blah blah" well, i just came across a list that is pretty damn spot on, Spell Lists for Celes and Terra enjoy;

Terra
Cure - 1
Fire - 3
Antdot - 6
Drain - 12
Life - 18
Fire 2 - 22
Warp - 26
Cure 2 - 33
Dispel - 37
Fire 3 - 43
Life 2 - 49
Pearl - 57
Break - 68
Quartr - 75
Merton - 86
Ultima - 99

Celes
Ice - 1
Cure - 4
Antdot - 8
Imp - 13
Scan - 18
Safe - 22
Ice 2 - 26
Haste - 32
Muddle - 32
Bersk - 40
Ice 3 - 42
Vanish - 48
Haste2 - 52
Pearl - 72
Flare - 81
Meteor - 98

There we go! save it somewhere and NEVER ask the damn question again! lol


Sorry to rain on the party Dawes, just read my reply a few posts down though. I think this thread really deserved some special treatment. - LocoColt04

Not a damn problem mate - Dawezy

[Omega]

So your basically telling us when they learn the spell based on there level instead of learning it from an esper??

Cool and yet who cares at the same time dude! I mean I suppose this is helpful, but why does anyone need to know this information? As anyone going through the game will not want to miss any of the espers. Hence they will be able to learn all the spells anyway???

uh-huh

But thanx anyway

[Dawezy]

Cobain
So your basically telling us when they learn the spell based on there level instead of learning it from an esper??

Cool and yet who cares at the same time dude! I mean I suppose this is helpful, but why does anyone need to know this information? As anyone going through the game will not want to miss any of the espers. Hence they will be able to learn all the spells anyway???

uh-huh

But thanx anyway

Heh, those are the levels that Celes and Terra, naturally learns spells without the aid of Espers.. thats excatly why i am putting this list up. Its been asked before, and i jus happen to come across the info.. so, eh, post it up.

[Sean]

It also makes it easier. If your soon approaching the level in which they learn the spell why waste your time having them learn it via an Esper?

A FAQ I've been using has that list. =\ Well, it isn't necesarrily a list, I think. I dunno. Blah.

[Omega]

Originally posted by Sean
It also makes it easier. If your soon approaching the level in which they learn the spell why waste your time having them learn it via an Esper?

.

I'll agree with what your saying, but seriously when you get the first 6 espers, your around level 20 right. That list really might only help slightly, as your going to learn the spells from those 6 espers really quick, including Fire2, and stuff like that. Also after you get the first 6 you start getting the rest of them pretty regularly after that. Therefore you'll have access to those higher spells before those two characters even get to those levels.

It's helpful, but not really needed, to accomplish the same goal.

[Sean]

When I got the first 6 Epsers on my most recent game I was lvl 30+

But anyways, the lvl 1 (fire, bolt, ice) magics learn at X20, the lvl 2 magics (fire 2, bolt 2, and ice 2) learn at X5? and yeah... it's actually really slow.

It took me 4+ hours to train all my characters at that point to have all the spells those 6 Esper's give.

[LocoColt04]

*vows never to delete the thread*

While I'm at it, I think I might change the name to something more fitting and then sticky it up top. After all, natural skills are good. We can include things in this thread like the levels at which new blitzes and swrdtechs are learned.

I'd snag a list now, but I've got to get to school to take attendance, even though I have no tests today. I'll get them later.


*does things mentioned above*

[psychosyd]

Actually that list is semi helpful to me, cuz I have certain "standard points" I have to meet before I go to sections of this game, I dunno why, its just something I do, like, I like having my main 3 party members being about lvl 45 before going to the Triangle Island so I can just totally rape everything... that and the basic, 10 fire rods and 1 ice rod for escaping the island, but from that chart, you can see my Terra (who I have in my active party) has fire 3 before she can even get access to the esper by FAR!

That and I have all other characters to lvl 30 by that time as well, and I wouldent mind just naturally learning those spells rather than spend a LONG time earning them with the rates given... I dont go to the final dungeon till my active party at LEAST has all the spells learned (im a perfectionist... I know) and is about lvl 75...

so that helps me actually in my leveling experience

[OmegaGear]

Man... level 75!? The final dungeon is a walk in the park at those levels. 45 for triangle island? lol. I thyought level 30 was going too far. My requirement for that was just having one person being able to use Atma Weapon at its full legnth, because it looked "cool" lol. I know what you mean though, having the ace in the hole is nice, because no one likes losing.

This list is kinda nice. Personally, I never really cared that Terra and Celes learned magic naturally, because learning by way of Espar was faster than leveling once you got to the world of ruin.

[psychosyd]

I dunno, im kinda weird like that, I just thought Triangle Island and the final dungeon would be super hard... so I kept holding back till I went there... Triangle I just got to 30 cuz I had read it would help me in the WoR... but I did it the super slow way and had my 3 active party members in at all time when I leveled the other characters, so by the time everyone was to lvl 30, they were about lvl 45... its overkill, but fun

And then... with teh Final Dungeon, I just didnt want to beat it... so I didn't I sat in the Dino Forest for a long long time and just kept going... I actually was about to out HP the magimaster because of it... when he used his final attack Ultima... my levels were high enough that I just survived it, one person even not in critical

[LocoColt04]

OG: Personally, I never really cared that Terra and Celes learned magic naturally, because learning by way of Esper was faster than leveling once you got to the world of ruin.


Well yes, but when you're like me and you're close to 50 before you even START the WoR, then lists like that are actually quite nice.

Heh, and Mr. Crazy Cid over there think's HE'S a perfectionist...
I won't finish a game -- any game -- without all characters maxed out as far as the levels are concerned. Okay, maybe the first time, but none after.

[psychosyd]

Actually, that was what I was gunna do, but I remember it exactly, I went to a friends house for the weekend, and he took all my SNES games... Zelda, FF6, Mystic Quest, SM:RPG and maybe even Chrono Trigger and we sat down and beat them... so I never got around to it

But I did get everyone Ultima :-p

[LocoColt04]

Wow, that's pretty impressive. Okay, so... the reason I've yet to put up the blitz and swdtech lists is because I can't find them... and I can't just remember what all of the levels were... so yeah.

Umm, if someone else finds those, you're more than welcome to tack them on.

[psychosyd]

hehe, alrighty rooty here you go people note... v=down ^=up <=left and >=right

Sabin Figaro

Skill: Pummel
Effect: Physical damage to a single enemy
Command: Left, Right, Left
Learned: Level 1

Skill: AuraBolt
Effect: Magical damage to a single enemy
Command: Quarter Circle rotation of joypad from down to left
Alt.: v, v, <
Learned: Level 6

Skill: Suplex
Effect: Physical damage to a single enemy
Command: X, Y, v, ^
Learned: Level 10

Skill: Fire Dance
Effect: Fire-based damage to all enemies
Command: Semi Circle from Left to down to right
Alt.: <, <, v, v, >
Learned: Level 15

Skill: Mantra
Effect: Restores HP to all allies excluding Sabin
Command: R, L, R, L, X, Y
Learned: Level 23

Skill: Air Blade
Effect: Wind-based damage to all enemies
Command: Circular rotation of joypad from up to left (3/4 rotation)
Alt.: ^, ^, >, >, v, v, <
Learned: Level 30

Skill: Spiraler
Effect: Fully restores all allies' HP; Sabin removed from battle
Command: R, L, X, Y, >, <
Learned: Level 42

Skill: Bum Rush
Effect: Magical damage to one enemy
Command: Full Circular rotation of joypad, from left back to left
Alt.: <, <, ^, ^, >, >, v, v, <
Learned: Level 70
NOTE: *Duncan will teach Sabin if you meet him in the World of Ruin.*

And

Cyan Garamonde
SwdTech 1: Dispatch
Effect: Deals physical damage.
Level: 1

SwdTech 2: Retort
Effect: Places Cyan in a state where if he is attacked, he will automatically counterattack.
Level: 6

SwdTech 3: Slash
Effect: Halves an enemy's current HP.
Level: 12

SwdTech 4: Quadra Slam
Effect: Attacks the enemies with four hits.
Level: 15

SwdTech 5: Empowerer
Effect: Deals damage to the enemy's HP and MP and Cyan is restored by that amount.
Level: 24

SwdTech 6: Stunner
Effect: Deals damage to all enemies and casts Stop.
Level: 1

SwdTech 7: QuadraSlice
Effect: Attacks the enemies with four hits.
Level: 44

SwdTech 8: Cleave
Effect: Instantly dispatches enemies.
Level: 70

Which brings to question... what happens if you do Cyans dream at level 70... and is it worth finding Duncan if you are already lvl 70 with Sabin...

I dont think I would have the patience to wait... they are the first people I recruit as soon as its possible to reget them in the WoR

[D@vid]

I remember playing FF6 and not going to the mountain where you get Sabin and fight Vargas until Terra learned fire 3. I think everyone had past 2,500 HP.

[LocoColt04]

Oh man, James, where the heck did you find those lists? AHHHHH!

It's probably somewhere right out in the open, but hey, now it's here, and there's no problem finding them any more, right? Right. Thanks for getting those up. Now we can just look for some more random lists to tack on here. Why not, right? As long as it's relevant...


And D@vid, that's an interesting concept there... working everyone up to at least level 43 (where Terra learns Fire 3) before going to get Sabin... how much time did you have to spend doing that?

[D@vid]

It took a couple of weeks, I could only level up so much before I got bored. But I wanted to see some of the spells Terra would learn on her own.

[Psiko]

Alright, I am setting out to do the impossible, folks. Due to the fact that NOBODY likes Gau much, I have decided to help his reputation a little. I'm working on getting virtually EVERY Rage, which will take a LOT of patience on my part. I'm getting ready to enter the Floating Continent right now, so the list is rather short compared to what it will be when I am done. Furthermore, I am using each Rage to find out what Special Attack each enemy gives you (Because they have an attack and a special attack, so that doesn't take TOO long to figure out). I'm sure you'll like what I have found so far. Here they are, in alphabetical order. I also have taken the liberty of placing them with a number that represents where they would be on the Rage Screen in the Menu.

EX:

Guard Soldier
Templar -Blank-

The Guard would be #1, Soldier is #2, Templar is #3 and #4 is still empty. The format follows the entire way down, from left to right all the way to #256, which is the final slot.

------------------------------------------------

Abolisher - #236, Poison
Actaneon - #95, Clamp
Adamanchyt - #215, Acid Rain
Anguiform - #59, Aqua Rake
Apokrypos - #13, L.3 Muddle
Apparite - #111, Imp
Aquila - #237, Cyclonic
Areneid - #94, Numb
Aspik - #90, Giga Volt
Balloon - #223, Exploder
Baskervor - #30, Cyclonic
Beakor - #42, Duster
Behemoth - #33, Meteor
Black Dragon - #214, Storm
Bleary - #100, Doom
Bomb - #80, Blaze
Borras - #243, Revenge
Bounty Man - #122, Bite
Brawler - #12, Stone
Bug - #233, Stop
Cephaler - #151, Husk
Ceritops - #199, Giga Volt
Chaos Dragon - #227, Disaster
Chimera - #32, Aqua Rake
Cirpius - #135, Haste2
Commander - #18, Break
Commando - #200, Reflect
Crasshoppr - #48, Bserk
Crawler - #92, Step Mine
Crawly - #99, Heart Burn
Cruller - #76, Slimer
Crusher - #147, Lifeshaver
Dahling - #10, Cure2
Dark Side - #97, Ice2
Dark Wind - #41, Break
Deep Eye - #168, Dread
Delta Bug - #49, Mega Volt
Doberman - #27, Bite
Dragon - #132, Revenge
Earth Guard - #179, Big Guard
Exocite - #58, Scissors
Exoray - #146, Virite
Fidor - #29, Pounce
Flan - #72, Slimer
FossilFang - #36, Sand Storm
Gabbledegak - #224, Vanish
Garm - #204, Demi
General - #103, Cure2
Ghost - #91, Bolt2
Gigantos - #175, Magnitude8
GiloMantis - #50, Schrapnel
Gobbler - #137, Shim Sham
Gold Bear - #246, Gouge
GreaseMonk - #169, Shell
Guard - 31, Critical
HadesGigas - #84, Magnitude8
Harpiai - #138, Aero
Harvester - #79, Haste
Hazer - #9, Bolt2
HeavyArmor - #160, Tek Laser
Herm Crab - #45, Net
Hornet - #47, Iron Needle
Humpty - #74, Poison
Ing - #73, Life Shaver
Insecare - #209, Wing Whisp
Intangir - #164, Pep Up
Iron Fist - #109, Stone
Joker - #108, Bolt2
Karkass - #221, Bolt3
Leafer - #24, Incisor
Lobo - #26, Tusk
Lunaris - #203, Face Bite
Luridan - #143, Land Slide
M-Tek Armor - #67, Tek Laser
Mad Oscar - #98, Sour Mouth
Mag Roader - #7, Bio
Mag Roader - #176, Mute
Mag Roader - #232, Haste
Mag Roader - #244, L.4 Flare
Mandrake - #239, Raid
Marshal - #101, Wind Slash
Mesosaur - #34, Step Mine
Mind Candy - #141, Sleep Sting
Misfit - #165, Lifeshaver
Muus - #220, Pep Up
Nastidon - #207, Blizzard
Nautilus - #57, Ink
Neck Hunter - #170, Imp
Necromancer - #242, Doom
Ninja - #4, Water Edge
Nohrabbit - #196, Cure2
Osprey - #231, Shim Sham
Parasoul - #192, Flash Rain
Peepers - #115, Pearl Wind
Phase - #189, Blow Fish
Pipsqueak - #66, Imp
Pm Stalker - #193, Drain
Power Demon - #112, Flare
Primordite - #149, NumBlade
Pterodon - #35, Fire Ball
Pug - #85, Break
Punisher - #222, Bolt3
Ralph - #124, Tackle
Red Fang - #121, Drain
Red Wolf - #249, Rush
Repo Man - #78, Exploder
Rhinotaur - #22, Mega Volt
Rhinox - #118, Life3
Rhobite - #119, Life
Rhodox - #19, Snare
Rinn - #208, Fire
Sand Ray - #93, Tail
Scrapper - #198, Elf Fire
Scorpion - #226, Poison
Sea Flower - #234, Sleep
Sewer Rat - #116, Incisor
Sky Armor - #68 - Tek Laser
Slam Dancer - #83 - Ice2
Slurm - #185, Slimer
Soldier - #2, Fire
Soul Dancer - #174, Osmose
Sp Forces - #195, Safe
Spectre - #183, Fire
Spit Fire - #228, Tek Laser
Sr Behemoth - #128, Fire3
Still Life - #81, Lullaby
Stray Cat - #25, Cat Scratch
Telstar - #69, Sonic Boom
Templar - #3, Fire2
Trapper - #46, L.3 Muddle
Trilium - #51, Bio
Trilobiter - #55, Poison Barb
Trixter - #248, Fire2
Trooper - #102, Swing
Tusker - #123, Blizzard
Uroburos - #148, Quake
Ursus - #21, Net
Vaporite - #71, Blaze
Vector Pup - #114, Bite
Vermin - #210, Scan
Vomammoth - #28, Blizzard
Vulture - #43, Shim Sham
Weedfeedr - #142, Bserk
Were-Rat - #20, Poison
Whisper - #15, Demi
Wizard - #197, Demi
Wyvern - #130, Cyclonic
Zombone - #131, Condemned

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Biggest Surprise: Cirpius using Haste2. You can get that Rage early on, long before you have any chance of learning the spell yourself! A definite must-have, indeed!

Most Useful: Rhinox with his Life3. Think of how those bosses will suffer when you have a nearly invincible party. Gau casts Life3 over and over and over again. What could be better than that? Once again, you get this long before you can learn the spell itself.

Most Disappointing: Intangir, hands down. This beast is so tough on the WoB version of Triangle Island, I figured his Rage would be just as awesome. In fact, the thought of learning Meteo had me in a frenzy. Alas! He only gives you the worthless Pep Up! What a bother, eh?

Most Anticipated: Right now, I can't wait to finally figure out which Rage in the game uses Shock, which is General Leo's Special Attack. Yes, one of the enemies has Shock, but I think they are in the WoR...damn bastards. I want to Shock the crap out of Atma Weapon! =P

[LocoColt04]

You know, I actually found this list once... and said 'Screw it. I'm not modding that whole thing to fit in here. Maybe later.' and yet, here it is... magically... as though you've read my mind...

*Psiko gained 3 more brownie points!*

</FFX_TriggerCommands>


But really, that's an awesome list to have. Think about it.
Every Rage, and you know what each one does. Amazing.

Normally, I'd do this ( ), but... oh wait, just did.

[Psiko]

As I get more Rages, I shall edit them into that first post where they belong and then make a post to show you which ones I just added, so you can find the new ones with little difficulty.

So far I have found 18 new Rages since I first posted that list, several of them being from the Floating Continent. Yes, I fought through the entire place just to leap back down to the airship and get more Rages before going on.

I figured it would be easier to get some of them this way rather than later on when there are more enemies available, lol.

So, without further ado, here are the ones I have added:

Sand Ray
Rhodox
Commander
Trilium
Nautilus
Sky Armor
Spit Fire
WeedFeedr
Ninja
Pterodon
Sewer Rat
Vermin
Dragon
Spectre
Rinn
Red Fang
HadesGigas
Apokrypos

Amazing how new ones pop up all the time, even after (what seems like) a million battles on the Veldt. I have dedicated HOURS of Veldt time, and several people have almost all the spells learned that I have available. I believe Sabin and Gau both need only one or two more spells, those ones being at slow rates, like Drain.

Anywho, the Floating Continent has been a breeze with Gau. Can anyone say Doom? Yeah, the Behemoths and Ninjas are very easy to get rid of with the Bleary Rage, and Chimera works wonders against the Dragons. For those other weaker enemies I usually just use the General Rage for the Cure2 casting. Hey, its free, so why not?

Now Atma Weapon shall ph34r my l33t Rages!

[psychosyd]

Thing is, it has been repeatedly reputed that nobody has been able to find all the rages, there always seems to be 3 blank slots (And trust me, I have gotton to that point). So I would reccomend staying at 3 empty slots since you can't fill them up, or at least, nobody in the history of history has been able to

[Psiko]

Official count: 148 Rages.
108 Rages left to go.

Best New Rages:

Sr Behemoth
Power Demon
Peepers
Earth Guard
Behemoth
Mesosaur

Sr Behemoth is an obvious good rage because Fire3 is an awesome spell, plus he is a boss that can be found on the Veldt. As an undead monster, you take damage from Cure spells BUT Doom and the like will bring him up to full HP. So, if you want to heal him, just cast Doom.

Power Demon has Flare, which is awesome. But the downside is that he is undead, just like the Sr Behemoth. Why do these uber Rages have to be undead?

Peepers! Good god, EVERYONE should get this Rage for Pearl Wind! For those of you who do not know, Pearl Wind cures everyone in the group an amount equivalent to the caster's current HP. VERY useful, IMO.

Earth Guard is the other must-have from the WoR! Big Guard is super-costly for Strago, but is an excellent Lore. Just think of how nice it would be to cast it for free, rather than the 80 MP...

Behemoth is my most-used Rage. He is close to the beginning, which is great, and he casts Meteor, which does a fair amount of damage to all enemies. It is my go-to Rage in all those repetitive random battles, if for no other reason than it's #33 spot.

Mesosaur is another great Rage. One of several that casts Step Mine, but this one is the best so far because it is #34, so you don't have to shuffle through the entire list to find him.

And I was VERY disappointed by the Pug. I thought that would be at LEAST a Step Mine...not a stupid Break!

[Elf]

Here's a somewhat incomplete list of esper effects. Thought it might help someone...

Kirin: Casts regen on all party members.
Unicorn: Casts remedy on all allies.
Sraphim: Recovers HP
Starlet: Recovers HP
Phoenix: Brings allies back to life.
Palidor: Makes whole party jump.
Ifrit: Fire damage to enemies.
Shiva: Ice damage to enemies.
Maduin: Non-elemental damage to enemies.
Bismark: Water damage to enemies.
Ramuh: Lightning damage to enemies.
Shoat: Petrifies enemies.
Odin: Slashes all enemies (Instant kills?)
Raiden: Powerful physical attacks? (not too sure...)
Crusader: Major damage (Fire elemental?)
Bahamut: Unblockable damage
Tritoch: Non-elemental damage
Alexander: Holy? damage
Ragnarok: Turns enemies to items.
Terrato: Earth damage
Carbunkl: Casts reflect on all allies.
Phantom: Casts vanish on all allies.
ZoneSeek: Casts safe and shell? on all allies.
Golem: Blocks physical attacks.
Stray: Muddles enemies.
Fenrir: Duplicates ally(s?) (similar to the blink spell in FF4)
Siren: Causes enemies to sleep.

Not the most complete list, but it could help some people.


EDIT by Colt: Ah yes, very good list. You're spot on for most of them, but rather than change up your list, I'll just link you up to the complete listing of esper attacks, spells, abilities, etc. http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/ff6/espers.php

[Omega]

Thing is, it has been repeatedly reputed that nobody has been able to find all the rages, there always seems to be 3 blank slots (And trust me, I have gotton to that point). So I would reccomend staying at 3 empty slots since you can't fill them up, or at least, nobody in the history of history has been able to

Alright the mod's can delete this post if they feel the need, but I thought you should know the truth of the matter. psychosyd is exactly correct, there is 3 you can't get by the game alone. You need to get the game genie to make it work. Here is a gamefaqs link that will tell you the whole Rage list and the three that you have to get with the game genie since they will never appear on the Veldt.

Link:

Rage and Lore List

It's Chupon, Allo Ver, and Siegfried. N' Pug is the 256th spot and should remain blank apparently by that FAQ's discussion on the issue saying that Pug can't be Raged. But if it can, it should be in that last spot. Regardless the only way to get the complete list is to use a game genie or game shark.

[LocoColt04]

Why would I want to delete something like this? Brilliant, in fact. It's good to know you've done a bit of research on this one. About that Pug though... psiko kinda listed the rage for it already (Break) so... well, I dunno, maybe something somewhere somehow... I'm lost already. Nevermind.

Heh, at the time being, I suppose my post in here could be counted as spam, so to avoid that... umm... oh yes, one little thing. I was wondering if we should post up lists of all relics and weapons and things like that or not. I mean, feel free to do so, because I'll probably put something up sooner or later...

[CID]

Wow, you guys really did some serious research on this. Kinda useless, but at the same time useful.

[psychosyd]

We do our best to make sure to keep the general public informed and devote our hours to semi meaningful tasks that at least bring out results.

[Dragonsoul]

I remember the first time Terra got Fire 3--I was so confused. After all, I figured that once you acquired the espers that was it--no more non-esper spells could be learned. So you can imagine my surprize when I saw that flash on the screen since I'd equipped her with an esper that had that ability! I'd thought there was some glitch.

[Angel of Death]

This isn't a list, but I think it belongs in here.

You know when you escape from the Returner's hideout, before the scene change? If you have an auto controller, you can level up all the way to 99.

It took me 8 days.

From 4:00 on Sunday, to 3:00 on Monday, the next week.

Hella long time.

[King Fenii]

Wow, you guys, this really helps, I'm clearing FFVI as we speak, and i just woke up in World of Ruin, i don't wanna use any stupid FAQs, so can any of you guys gimme a heads up of what i should look out for?