Pokemon:Harcore

[Skid Rock]

I've played pokemon for years, and with the Soul Silver and Heart Gold out I've decided to create a new way of playing pokemon, I was wondering if you guys can help me a little bit on the rules.

So far ideas i have are:

• Whenever a Pokemon faints, it dies: Therefore you must release it
• Whenever you lose a trainer battle, you must get rid of ALL your money (buy expensive items and discard them)
• You can't use items, only can heal using a PokeCenter
• Having a Pokemon team of ALL of the same Type or Pokemon

Anybody else have any ideas for rules that could REALLY make pokemon more enjoyable for the experienced gamer.

[Dodie16]

How about not running away from any battles? If you lose, then you simply lose, and face the consequences of your loss. I don't know if that would make your game more enjoyable, since you would have to face and defeat every encounter you come across.

That's all I can think of.

[Padraic]

No legendaries. God, only wimps use em.
You have to breed your pokemon, no just catching high level ones, or AR.
No AR or Gameshark.
No Items (besides pokeballs)
Paying 500$ to use the pokecenter (Buy something with around 500$ then discard it)
No ditto breeding (besides Male only pokemon)
Having only one move (Delete the others at the Move Deleter's)
Having all attacks of the same type
Having moves that only have five PP
Only being allowed to save in a pokemon center
Only being allowed to save either every hour or right before you quit the game

Those are just to name a couple... Doing that it would be really hard to play... wow

[GHOSTED]

Why not just raise only pokemon from level 1...by getting them through eggs...that'd be pretty hardcore.

[chikala95]

Do not evolve your pokemon. When they evolve, they gain higher stats and can learn some different moves. I'm going to be trying that, but sometimes I have the sudden urge to evolve them.

[Skid Rock]

No legendaries. God, only wimps use em.
You have to breed your pokemon, no just catching high level ones, or AR.
No AR or Gameshark.
No Items (besides pokeballs)
Paying 500$ to use the pokecenter (Buy something with around 500$ then discard it)
No ditto breeding (besides Male only pokemon)
Having only one move (Delete the others at the Move Deleter's)
Having all attacks of the same type
Having moves that only have five PP
Only being allowed to save in a pokemon center
Only being allowed to save either every hour or right before you quit the game

Those are just to name a couple... Doing that it would be really hard to play... wow

I love the save-limitations as well as the 500$ healing idea. I might do that, hahaha might even make a little blog or something on my day-day adventures on how hard it is to play.

[DragonHeart]

Shiny Pokemon only! XD Now that would be tough. I think I've only come across 3 or 4 in the wild, the Red Gyarados not included. There are ways to increase the odds of finding one but it's still quite tricky to do.

What else...you can only use Pokemon you are given (like your starter) for the entire game.

You cannot use the Pokemon Center for healing; items only.

You can only use Pokemon who evolve with a stone or special condition (time of day, happiness etc). The exception being your starter, obviously.

~DragonHeart~

[Furore]

What else...you can only use Pokemon you are given (like your starter) for the entire game.

That's how I played my very first game of Blue version. Without any unnecessary grinding I ended up with a level 70 something Blastoise who could kill any Elite Four pokemon in two hits or less. Actually made the game rediculously easy especially as I taught my starter Dig when possible and then Earthquake, both killing anything supereffective against me in a single hit.

[DragonHeart]

I do tend to do that myself...my starter will be consistently 10-20 levels higher than the rest of my team. When it comes to the Elite Four I usually make up the difference with a legendary or lots of restorative items lol. I don't think I've ever even really made an attempt to build a balanced team. I'm not really sure how common that is, though.

Types have probably been covered already...there's also going by egg types. It could make for some rather unusual team combinations, if nothing else.

~DragonHeart~

[Heartless Angel]

• No rare candies (tbh that's an advantage for EV training <.<)
• No items during battle (except for hold items)
• No TMs (HMs obviously are accetpable)
• No EV increasing items (Protein, Calcium, Iron, Carbos, HP Up, and the other one I forget the name of)
• All pokemon in your party must have at least one type in common.
• No Daycare (except for breeding)
• No avoiding trainers
• No legendaries UNLESS you catch them with a great ball or pokeball. If you've got that much time to kill, you've earned the right to use a legend lol. And yes, this is possible. I have Lugia in a great ball, and mewtwo in a pokeball (Don't even ask how long that took, I stopped counting after the 15th reset).
• Party contains only 3 pokemon

If you simply want to try playing in a more interesting way, try specialized EV training instead of standard grinding. It makes you stronger in the end.

[Skid Rock]

I do tend to do that myself...my starter will be consistently 10-20 levels higher than the rest of my team. When it comes to the Elite Four I usually make up the difference with a legendary or lots of restorative items lol. I don't think I've ever even really made an attempt to build a balanced team. I'm not really sure how common that is, though.

Types have probably been covered already...there's also going by egg types. It could make for some rather unusual team combinations, if nothing else.

~DragonHeart~

the introduction of Egg moves, in my opinon is one of Pokemon's best features. Nothing beats the look on my friends faces when u have a Pikachu with like, surf or something (just saying for an example, not sure if its posisble.) but yeah.... whenever i play, i ALWAYS makes the most balanced team possible..its kinda creepy how obsessive i get over it. I have to have every single guy the same level, and then i start from the first slot, and then work my way down towards the bottom, leveling them one by one. I usually have a solid 40-50 group when going in the elite four. Its not the best idea, so im really trying to break that idea, and yeah...im prob gonna make the OFFICAL pokemon Hardcore list, in a post in a few or something like that.

[Rydia Lover]

having attacks of only one type can be impossible, and im not just talking about normal against ghost types, but also ghost against normal, poison against steel, and many fire types are completely immune to other fires as well.

[Rocky]

How about if you black out, you have to delete your save and start over?

That would be pretty hardcore.

[Heartless Angel]

having attacks of only one type can be impossible, and im not just talking about normal against ghost types, but also ghost against normal, poison against steel, and many fire types are completely immune to other fires as well.

And there are a few water types with an ability that nullifies water, levitate nullfies ground, flying is immune to it, dark is immune to psychic, fighting against ghost... tbh this only makes me like this idea more, as it forces you to make a party that can deal with anything.

[Padraic]

I just realized the title of this thread itself is hardcore, you forgot the D

[Jin]

How about when you faint, you break your cartridge and never re-buy it? Or keep some chloroform handy to realistically simulate fainting. It doesn't get much more harcore than that.