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    Hey, This is my first post...I think lol, joined ages ago.

    Anyways did you find it hard learning the roles? at the start I kept forgetting what a saboteur did or a Ravager etc, also the the pro's and con's of them was confusing and i had to keep looking in the manual to understand them. Now i mostly remember from their colour or by remembering saboteur sounds simular to sabotage which is basically what they do, and Medic was obvious

    Did others have this prob?

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    Re: Roles

    Until 10 hours in, I just substituted the roles for their Japanese names: Commando was Attacker, Medic was Healer, etc.

    Now, I refer to them all properly, and it gives me a slight feeling of satisfaction when I say to myself "Okay Hope, you'll be a Ravager in a Paradigm with Vanille as a Medic and Snow as a Commando. Also, I'll have Hope as a Synergist, Vanille as a Sabotuer, and Snow as a Sentinel for another."

    They just feel more important than the obvious names.

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    At first, yeah... lol


    But I'm barely into the game.. chapter 4.. xD

    I just got the omni-kit or whatever, and now I can upgrade my weapon... and now Crystarium is soooo expensive, what the hell

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    Once I got used to all the names, it got easier for me. I still just go by their shorter names though: COM, RAV, MED, SEN, SAB, and SYN. Just makes things easier for me.

    I find it hard to figure out just which character I want to do what. Once you get further along in the story, you are able to have all your characters learn all the different roles. I really want team Fang, Hope, and Lightning to work, but I fear that I may have to substitute Hope out for one of the other characters. His HP is just too low.

    Granted, I probably could upgrade some of those nifty accessories to get his HP up to snuff, and having him learn different roles could get it up there too, but the Chrystarium gets EXPENSIVE! At the point of the game where I'm at right now, I think it's more important to get the characters focused on the roles that they have been doing, rather than start them on another path.
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    It's the same for me, the game has only just let me assign any role to any character, but it's too expensive starting them on new ones anyway, i thought the CP would be low for level 1 in a new role but it was 3000 easier to stick to the ones they already know for now i guess.

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    I actually got it pretty quick, i was kinda surprised in myself , i actually remembered saboteur like you did as sabotage, everything else was kinda easy to remember.

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    I understood the concept from the outset, it just took me 3/4 of the game to realize how much buffs and debuffs actually affected the battles. XD Aside from XI buffs have never been important before. I was so used to never needing them I just never bothered with Saboteur or Synergist. Then I hit the end chapters and the fights got harder. A lot harder. I thought maybe I'd skipped too many fights (I do that when I just want to get on with the story) so I did grind for a bit. Then I put Sazh in my team and my eyes were opened, finally. XD Now that I use both Sab and Syn regularly I realize how badly I gimped myself by ignoring two very important roles.

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    I'm on chapter 9 and I'm still having a bit of difficulty understanding the assigning of the roles.. I know I'll keep Light, Hope and Fang (what a really dumb name for such a lovely woman) assigned to their 3 diversified roles that the guide told me to use, but what about Snow, Sazh and Venille?

    The guide says to make them specialists, so I'm assuming that means Sentinel for Snow, Saboteur for Venille and Synergist for Sazh, right? So what do you do, never spend another CP on them except for their own specialized categories?

    Why did they make the game so confusing for us dimwits? Oh, and the weapons and accessory upgrades, don't even want to go there..

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    Re: Roles

    The names of the roles weren't too hard to grasp. All of them are the basic archetypes for character builds in MMO games, like Sentinel = Tank, Synergist = Buffer, Saboteur = Debuffer, etc. Once I realized that, they were much easier to remember.

    The weapon/accessory upgrades aren't too bad once you know what you are doing. Start off and use the "naturey beast stuff" (like the fangs) until you get a 3x multiplier, then use as many of the synthetic stuff as you can until the multiplier gets reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    The names of the roles weren't too hard to grasp. All of them are the basic archetypes for character builds in MMO games, like Sentinel = Tank, Synergist = Buffer, Saboteur = Debuffer, etc. Once I realized that, they were much easier to remember.

    The weapon/accessory upgrades aren't too bad once you know what you are doing. Start off and use the "naturey beast stuff" (like the fangs) until you get a 3x multiplier, then use as many of the synthetic stuff as you can until the multiplier gets reset.
    Why don't you bring it down to a level even a dimwit like myself can understand? Like what are the 5 best organic ingredients to use in combination with the 5 best inorganic ingredients just to get to the next levels? I mean, I think that's the biggest problem with the game, just the huge amount of items to pick from and not having a clue as to which is the best to use.. Does it matter? And what happens when you run out of things like 'fangs' and 'tails' (heh, heh, you lose those when you get old too, )

    ARRRGGG! Someone should kick SquareEnix right 'square' in their backside for adding such a big difficulty to the game, it takes a lot of the fun out of it..

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    I'm still not sure what the difference is between the sab and syn is lol

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    Saboteur lets you cast all of the spells that weaken the opponents, like Pain, Fog, Curse, etc. Synergist is the exact opposite; Synergists use spells that make your team stronger, like Protect, Shell, Haste, and so on. Sometimes using the Espionage paradigm (SYN/SAB/SAB) at the start of battle is a great way to get the drop on enemies, since not only you are making your characters stronger, you are also weaking your enemies as well.
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    Meier: Hey Pete, I said I started to, it just didn't end the with the same number of women. Then again this one is kind of on the outs with me if she doesn't straighten up and fly right so that means I will be back in it for the thrill of the kill. Got some in the reserves. Even got a rePETEr (<---- like that ay? AYYYYY?) on the back burner.

    Block: I do like the rePETEr except it kinda makes it sound like you're going to pork Pete. No homo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Saboteur lets you cast all of the spells that weaken the opponents, like Pain, Fog, Curse, etc. Synergist is the exact opposite; Synergists use spells that make your team stronger, like Protect, Shell, Haste, and so on. Sometimes using the Espionage paradigm (SYN/SAB/SAB) at the start of battle is a great way to get the drop on enemies, since not only you are making your characters stronger, you are also weaking your enemies as well.
    Thank you, thats helped alot, I'm always getting confused with which was which lol

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