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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Heartless Angel View Post
    Immortality IS an acomplishment as far as I'm concerned. A gateway acomplishment that can only lead to more. I consider the full story. Only reason one would choose to ignore a continuation is if it made one's case harder to make. But, if you want to argue solely on their original games, yes. Sephiroth did lose. He does sitll however posess greater power than anything else in his world, and more power than other villains. Whether or not he put that power to good use is another thing entirely.

    I'll have to go dig that quote up later, got a damned research paper to do now unfortunately.
    Immortality is quite an accomplishment, God knows how many times I pined that down as his strongest point. But it was introduced eight years after original game as a mean to introduce him once more. If we're look at original game creators never meant to make Sephiroth immortal, but overall popularity of both character, and the game changed that with Advent Children. Immortality itself is not what you meant it out to be, he's restricted as he can't pop out whenever he wants. His will may be immortal, but not to dissolve it's fighting with lifstream which he doesn't have any control over it, thus the attempt with Geostigma. And judging by Advent Children he's going to have to find another way to take a form, as there's nothing left of Jenova. Immortality may lead him to what he desires, but at the same time, due to few problems he has to solve, it wont be as easy as you seem to claim, him still seeking power indicates that the current immortality is far from what he imagined as ultimate power.

    I don't mind taking the entire story as a comparison, in fact I welcome it, but considering that he appeared in several medias, in Advent Children immortality was even added, he did little with what he had to offer, and after Advent Children I'm starting to doubt, and have good reasons for it, if he will accomplish anything in near future. Not really a card I would like to play, if I was a Sephiroth fan, as a comparison to other villains who accomplished their goals despite the fact that they only appeared in their respective game.

    You can have a God like power, but what for if you don't know how to use it. Sephiroth's a perfect example of such villain, good villains take advantage of everything on their disposal, stupid comparison but nevertheless, he reminds me of Dr. Evil from Austin Powers, he has means and opportunity to accomplish his goal, but doesn't know how to.

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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Exdeath vs Sephiroth should be interesting at least. Sephiroth can pretty much slice you to ribbons with that long sword of his. Exdeath is just an ancient evil that wants to end everything, and has the power to do so once he gains the power of the Void. One's calm, while the other won't hesitate to kill you.

    I personally root for Exdeath, since all the Warriors of Dawn could do is seal his existence, and it was explained that "He kept going down, but wouldn't stay down". But like I said, it should be interesting since Sephiroth is one who doesn't stay down for long either.

    Kuja is probably weaker than Ultimecia, since Kuja without Trance is weaker than Garland. But if this was a battle that lasted for days, Kuja would probably find a way to stop Ultimecia before she completes her Time Kompression.

    Just a quick summary of my thoughts.
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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Hmm, I woul have to say, not from fanboyism, Exdeath would win in a fight agasint Sephiroth.
    Why?
    Well, for 1, he reduced 5 towns to nothingness, nihility, within 5 seconds, with nothing more than thought.

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    Jecht FFX, Personally my favorite evil dude because he looks soo badass and the music just fit that battle, unless u call Seymore a main boss, then I guess he ranks #2 from FFX

    On FF, Garland (Duh, because he is soo badass, haha)

    FFVI Kefka, I love his laugh, haha, its awesome, even tho that game is old, it is amazing

    VII Sephi isnt, Sipher Sephi was fun, and whatever the first form was, that was fun too

    XI Havent beaten it yet

    XIII So far as of chapter 11 I think Barthandolus (However you spell his name) is pretty interesting, I havent died on him yet, haha, I still have yet to fight him again though.
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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zolarp000 View Post
    Jecht FFX, Personally my favorite evil dude because he looks soo badass and the music just fit that battle, unless u call Seymore a main boss, then I guess he ranks #2 from FFX

    On FF, Garland (Duh, because he is soo badass, haha)

    FFVI Kefka, I love his laugh, haha, its awesome, even tho that game is old, it is amazing

    VII Sephi isnt, Sipher Sephi was fun, and whatever the first form was, that was fun too

    XI Havent beaten it yet

    XIII So far as of chapter 11 I think Barthandolus (However you spell his name) is pretty interesting, I havent died on him yet, haha, I still have yet to fight him again though.
    Hmm, care to explain in your thoughts how Jecht is the strongest?
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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Quote Originally Posted by o0Odin0o
    Hmm, care to explain in your thoughts how Jecht is the strongest?
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    Or a villain for that matter lol.
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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Quote Originally Posted by o0Odin0o View Post
    Hmm, care to explain in your thoughts how Jecht is the strongest?
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    Or a villain for that matter lol.
    Maybe...because he's Braska's Final Aeon and...is the designated villain before the pathetic excuse that's Yu Yevon? I mean, FFX is the only place where the final boss is a zombie that tries a tactic that his own daughter tries on you. Heck, the battle against Yunalesca is quite challenging, if only because she alternates between Curaga and Mega-Death, effectively forcing you to use Zombie creatively. But Jecht? I dunno, he's not the best villain...

    Now, if you want to find the villain who has done his objective (take that, Sephy!!), look no further than Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. =) I kid, I kid.
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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Quote Originally Posted by T.G. Oskar View Post
    Maybe...because he's Braska's Final Aeon and...is the designated villain before the pathetic excuse that's Yu Yevon? I mean, FFX is the only place where the final boss is a zombie that tries a tactic that his own daughter tries on you. Heck, the battle against Yunalesca is quite challenging, if only because she alternates between Curaga and Mega-Death, effectively forcing you to use Zombie creatively. But Jecht? I dunno, he's not the best villain...

    Now, if you want to find the villain who has done his objective (take that, Sephy!!), look no further than Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. =) I kid, I kid.
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    yeh, awesome setting for an awesome Final boss, then all we get is a spider? LOL. Maybe take away the spider and make something in spite of Omega weapon and take away auto life lol
    That' intrigues me, FF tactics, is it good? I played 5 minutes of it and there was too much talking I was horribly confused lol
    The first battle threw me off... I was done after that and played FF7, for the last time also lol

    Who was the final villian in FFtactics? Maybe I could add him here?

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    Re: Who is the strongest FF main villain!!

    Ahh, I see, would you say that this guy is comparable to other strong villians as in Ex-death or Ulty? Sephy?

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