Brotherhood of Doom v. The Masters: Open Q&A

[Nin`]

Time is a real bitch. I had one last epic post all lined up but, unfortunately, and in accordance with the timing conditions already set and agreed upon, I missed my chance to submit it by an hour or so. The clock I was relying on betrayed me it would seem. Oh well.

I do have a question though (which may sound n00bish): when the victors have been decided, will each of the individual battle threads be reopened so that the death posts may be evinced?

I figured it would be best to declare the death posts as the final post for each battle; makes sense to me.

Nin`

[LocoColt04]

You are correct, sir. That is the idea.

@Toro (and everyone else, I'm sure) - unfortunately, the timing for the end of things was off by a couple days. I had Thursday and Friday off from work -- perfect opportunity to sit down and do some hardcore reading. Unfortunately, I won't see a day off for a few more days now. My brain is *always* fried on the days that I work. I can't think straight enough to do any sort of reliable judgment.

I have myself scheduled off for Tuesday and Wednesday next week, so assuming none of my shifts need to change, we should see results in just a few short days. Bear with me, gentlemen (and ladies), for the end is near.

I'd like to remind you all that I would really hate to see either group's presence disappear, and that I really want to see the losing faction stick around on the forums. Even though your characters may meet their ends and your faction's branch here shall cease to exist (re: be archived), I don't want to lose any forum members if it can be avoided.

[Zephyr]

For Australia and New Zealand, you're about 12-14 hours behind.

Ahead, actually. I was having my mid-day food (we call it 'lunch' here) on Saturday when this wrapped up.

So it's finally over. To the victor, the spoils.

[Anomaly]

Well Colt, all I can say is take the time that you need. I know most of us are eager for final judgement and all that it entails, but I wouldn't want you to make any quick decisions you may regret later due simply to our enthusiastic urgings.

We can be patient.

By the way, I'm sorry if the time limit was a little confusing to some of you. I feel that is partially my fault. My Masters are from all over the world, and thus time differences would obviously be an issue. Still, I don't think any harm came of it, and I hope you don't let this one problem overshadow the entirety of this glorious experience. Well fought all...I believe this was the perfect way to pop the cherry of war, so to speak, in this realm. May we go on to many more battles in the coming future.

[LocoColt04]

I've got four of the threads read, thought over, and mostly written up. I still need to read the fifth thread, get its writeup done, and then post everything. It wouldn't be very fair unless I did all of these simultaneously, so that's why nothing is posted yet. I figured I owed all of you at least this much of a courtesy post. Shame I leave for work in an hour or I'd do it right now.

[ToroMor]

Sounds good to me. And while I have chewed up all my fingernails, I kept my footnails as a reserve, so take your time. :P

Btw, good idea to post them all at once, that's probably the best way to do it.

[darkViVi]

Haha!

I don't mind waiting for all the verdicts, just take your time.

*while everybody looks the other way Bloodaxe passes Loco an envelope under the table*

[ToroMor]

Are there any news on the judgement?
Loco, are you still alive?

[Anomaly]

It's almost Thanksgiving state side. Perhaps he can hand down a verdict by then? I'm sure that will open up at least a little bit of free time.

[LocoColt04]

I am still alive, my friends. Far busier than any one person should be. The holiday shopping season started early this year and the store has been in utter disarray. Even with the holiday help (one of whom is completely incompetent), it's tough to keep up.

I promise to you that the final verdict will come soon. If it has to wait until Thanksgiving, so be it. That very well may be the next day off that I have where I won't be stuck under a pile of other work.

[ToroMor]

Thanksgiving is over. Where is the verdict?

[ToroMor]

Ok, this is pissing me off right now. Colt, you have one more day left.
If you can't get it done until tomorrow, we will have to search for another judge. That would be a quite annoying task but I'm not going to wait any longer. The Brotherhood of Doom will not accept any verdict from LocoColt04 that comes after saturday, november 24th, 2007 23:59 CET.

[Lucid]

Don't you think that getting someone else to judge it will just cause it to take even longer?

[Anomaly]

And possibly raise questions about the validity of any such judgement? We'll have to re-enter into new negotiations to determine a suitable replacement judge if it comes to that.

I know Colt is a little errant in his judgement, but I'd like to think he's been mulling over his decision. Though I confess, I think I'd be a little upset if he was unable to finalize his judgements before the end of this month.

Perhaps he can go ahead and post up the other four judgements he says he already reached?

[darkViVi]

Loco is in no position to judge our war. This is just bullshit, he should have told us that he is far too busy and can't give any verdicts. However, I agree with Anomaly, post those verdicts already done and we'll discuss it from there. If there is anything to discuss.

[Lucid]

Loco is in no position to judge our war. This is just bullshit, he should have told us that he is far too busy and can't give any verdicts. However, I agree with Anomaly, post those verdicts already done and we'll discuss it from there. If there is anything to discuss.

Who do you think should judge it then? You?
Learn some patience and shut up.

As always, don't forget to direct all your negative comments to me.
I do enjoy reading all the colorful things you guys have written.
That is all.

[ToroMor]

Two whole clubs are on standby for this. Hearing not a single word about the verdict for WEEKS is totally inacceptable.
Loco, if you can give us a definite statement IF and WHEN the verdict will be finished, I'm willing to think about it.
Otherwise, the deadline stays and I will start negotiations with Anomaly tomorrow.

[darkViVi]

Who do you think should judge it then? You?
Learn some patience and shut up.

As always, don't forget to direct all your negative comments to me.
I do enjoy reading all the colorful things you guys have written.
That is all.

Shut up, don't tell me what to do and if you don't have anything sensible to say.. Don't say anything, n00bcake.

Setting new deadlines isn't all that bad, we haven't complained the two times you did that already Loco but ignoring them is another matter and besides don't we deserve to be informed on delays and when you plan to post your verdicts?

I'm out of here, I'll watch our own forum for any further updates.

[ToroMor]

I speak on behalf of the whole Brotherhood of Doom when I say that all our club activities are delayed until this verdict is posted. What's worse, without a reliable schedule, we can not make any other plans because we never know if the verdict is cast today, tomorrow or in two months. We did not complain when the start of the war was endlessly postponed, we did not complain when we were forced to do the whole preparation by ourselves. We did not complain in all the WEEKS that we are now waiting for the f*cking verdict. But this has to stop now. Something must be done or we will wait forever.

LocoColt, I still want you to judge this. I am convinced that if you let us down with the judging, this whole war will go down the sewer. But the way you acted left me with no other choice than to take action.

This truely sucks.

[LocoColt04]

If that's how you're going to act about it, then so be it.

Go ahead, find someone new, let it take even longer. Lay the BURDEN of eliminating an organization on someone else's shoulders. You think this is an easy decision? Fine. Find someone else who can be COMPLETELY fair about this.

It isn't my fault that this is the busiest time of the year for me.
I'm not going to quit my job just so I can get a little more time on the internet.

I have every intention of finishing this, but if you think someone else is better suited, so be it. I'll toss everything I have and let someone else start from scratch.



(Although, if you DO still insist upon finding someone else, might I suggest Psiko? He has never had any affiliation with either group, so given he has the time, he would be my best suggestion.)

[Sir Kenneth]

If that's how you're going to act about it, then so be it.

Go ahead, find someone new, let it take even longer. Lay the BURDEN of eliminating an organization on someone else's shoulders. You think this is an easy decision? Fine. Find someone else who can be COMPLETELY fair about this.

It isn't my fault that this is the busiest time of the year for me.
I'm not going to quit my job just so I can get a little more time on the internet.

I have every intention of finishing this, but if you think someone else is better suited, so be it. I'll toss everything I have and let someone else start from scratch.

I think our main beef here is that twice now you have told us that judgement would come within a couple of days and when that did not happen, we didn't get informed about it before inquiring about it in this very thread. We can be patient, but it would be nice with a definitive deadline or at the very least that you told us about any delays on your own accord.

[Nin`]

I seriously doubt Raikkonen was implying that he should judge our war.

Different people have differing limitations of patience and given that Argentos has already said, over eight days ago now that a verdict would come soon, and with no update in-between that time and before ToroMor prompted him, I can understand and empathize with those who are now getting annoyed.

But, and despite what happens now, I strongly suggest no more faux-deadlines. If you don't think, or just not sure whether or not you will be able to keep a certain deadline then do not suggest it; it will only raise temperatures higher if our hopes are left empty and you fail to meet it. That, for me at least, has been the most annoying element here.

It also doesn't help that our overloaded and plenipotentiary judge is acting solely alone here, but whether or not that can be helped at this stage is for ToroMor and Anomaly to perhaps talk over and decide.

One question I do have is when exactly can we expect to see our results, and I mean realistically.

[LocoColt04]

I wasn't anticipating so many responses this morning.

I do apologize for my previous post. I was, as you could imagine, a touch frustrated. If any of you have ever worked retail during the holiday season, you'd understand. What's worse is that I didn't even get the chance to breathe on a computer Thursday, when I thought I'd have the whole day to do as I pleased.

So here's my bottom line.

I agree with Anomaly -- a verdict in December for a war that ended in October is ridiculous. Go ahead and consult amongst yourselves and find an acceptable unbiased council for this. But all I ask is that you give me until the end of the month.

I've got a day off next week that is after my grandfather leaves town, so I won't have any distractions. If for any reason I am unable to pass judgment by Friday, 01 December, then the party you have chosen will judge in my stead.

Is that fair?

[ToroMor]

I wasn't anticipating so many responses this morning.

I do apologize for my previous post. I was, as you could imagine, a touch frustrated. If any of you have ever worked retail during the holiday season, you'd understand. What's worse is that I didn't even get the chance to breathe on a computer Thursday, when I thought I'd have the whole day to do as I pleased.

So here's my bottom line.

I agree with Anomaly -- a verdict in December for a war that ended in October is ridiculous. Go ahead and consult amongst yourselves and find an acceptable unbiased council for this. But all I ask is that you give me until the end of the month.

I've got a day off next week that is after my grandfather leaves town, so I won't have any distractions. If for any reason I am unable to pass judgment by Friday, 01 December, then the party you have chosen will judge in my stead.

Is that fair?

Now that's a word. Even if waiting another week more or less ruins my plans, I can live with it and will gladly do so for the sake of a definite schedule and a fair and decent judgement.

As for a spare judge: I don't think that it makes sense. In addition, I am fed up with the whole process. The war has already turned out to be quite anti-climatic and negotiations about a different judge will not only prolong this story endlessly but also turn into one big annoyance. What we all fought for: victory; gleaming, lucent, sweet, inebriant, orgasmic victory! It will fade into nothing but relief.

So for a last time, I adjure you to bring this to an end.

[Zardoch]

I think we could all wait that long for the verdicts to become finalized. So on Friday, December 1st, I suspect everything to finally come to an end. Anyone else should be able to agree with that since it's better than nothing.

[Godean]

Agreed, except Saturday is December 1st.

So is it friday or saturday?

[LocoColt04]

Oh, well whenever Friday is. I didn't look at a calendar.


And for those of you wondering what's taking so long -- it's the way I'm going about judging. Process is same as usual, but the follow-up is the big difference this time.

This isn't like a tournament, where I can say "you had these strengths and weaknesses and this is why this person won" in some simple little three-paragraph form. I'm going through all of these citing specific examples, as I figured you wouldn't want it any other way. It's like writing an essay for each thread, quoting whole sections and pointing out all sorts of shit within them. I tried to focus more on your strengths than your weaknesses when picking points for victory. That's what makes this so time-consuming this time around.

It's still not an excuse, but I figured the lot of you were wondering what the hell was taking so long this time around.

[ToroMor]

No problem, I send you my ready-to-use in-depth battle evaluation. Feel free to use it. I can also wrap in some of those left over Euro notes, I heard they are quite valuable in the US :D

Seriously, if the verdict will be that sophisticated, the monstrous delay would probably be worth it. I had lost all hope that we can bring this to a worthy end and my curiosity was almost dead, but now there is new ray of darkness on the shiny horizon.

[darkViVi]

left over Euro notes, I heard they are quite valuable in the US

Hahahahahaha!


Seems you are going more in-depth than I thought, Argentos. I shall be patient and put my hard feelings on the delays aside. As long this is worth the wait, take your time man.

[Akira]

But not too much time! ;)

I'm completely satisfied with the current decision, and friday sounds perfect! If the verdicts are really this in depth and sophisticated, I am indeed excited to see these evaluations. I'm sure that they will be just as exciting as the actual battles themselves.