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    I will only be posting in here to set some things straight, as it's apparent that massive confusion is rampant among your ranks.

    My post about attacking the fortress was only a creative metaphor to show that the BoD is ready and locked for battle. I actually had no idea you guys had some ungodly fortress floating in the sky somewhere. Nevertheless, I think it would be no match for the BoD citadel...

    But that's beside the point. What is important, is that having such a fortress would be the most blatant example of god-modding I have ever seen, and therefore against TFF RPB rules. I mean, we'd love to level the cute little building, but you guys would probably just reply with something like "the Masters' fortress has just gone into 'untouchable' mode and cannot be infiltrated ever!!!1!!!!!111!!!"

    You know and I know that that is just plain rediculous! But since we are the aggitators in this matter, we will obviously have the choice of battlefield. We will be notifying you with the environment once you have your whole leader fiasco sorted out.

    Just for the record, GWV is the moderator of the club section and can post in here all he wants.


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    I agree whole-heartedly with GWV, and even *sigh* to some extent Akira. We cannot have our fortress in the state it normally sits while fighting this war. For the duration of the battle it will have to touch down somewhere so that we can be sure to leave this as fair as possible. We cannot leave any room for the BoD to come up with an excuse for us to be put at a disadvantage. If we keep things fair the 'judge/s' would have a more difficult time growing a likeness to one side over the other. If we keep complaining that 'Awww, but our fortress can't be breached! They can't get to us WTF GTFO! This isn't fair!' than we are in fact the ones who are being unfair; and ridiculously stupid for that matter. Keep a level playing field and beat them fair and square. That's the prideful way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by me
    But in the interest of a fair and balanced fight, I say we go elsewhere for this war.
    I agree with myself. And Slim, GWV, and Akira. And no, I'm not even going to '*sigh*' on that one, he makes a very good point. I may not entirely agree that the fortress is a blantant god-mod, but it's pretty damn close.

    As for our leader situation, I thought we had agreed Godean was in charge. He is the 2IC in these situations, so it's only logical that he be in charge.

    Slim, I know you want to face ToroMor yourself, and I know ToroMor has said he wants to fight whoever's in charge, but say Godean elects you as his 'Champion' and lets you fight ToroMor in his stead? I'm sure the three of you can come to some kind of arrangement.

    I vote Godean. It's a matter of policy, and that policy is in place for good reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep
    Slim, I know you want to face ToroMor yourself, and I know ToroMor has said he wants to fight whoever's in charge, but say Godean elects you as his 'Champion' and lets you fight ToroMor in his stead? I'm sure the three of you can come to some kind of arrangement.

    I vote Godean. It's a matter of policy, and that policy is in place for good reasons.
    I completely agree with Nyar's logic in terms of our course of action. I vote Godean as well, to mediate and instruct us through this fight. I only hope we can come to a plausible agreement with ToroMor as it would seem that I am most suited to battle him (please note that I am truly not intending to come across as conceited).

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    I also vote Godean as leader for the duration of the war or until Anomaly comes back. I pm'ed ToroMor with a few questions. For the feild of battle, as he said in one of his posts above, He and the Princes will be dicussing that. I also suggested to him that the war not be five, or however many people take place in the war, one on one battles, but One large full scale battle. I feel it would be more epic, though maybe a bit harder to judge. So yeah... I'd like this war to get started as soon as possible since the longer the "OOC War" (Discussions and such) goes on, it has been my experience that war it self will be less enjyable as people get sick of hearing about the war instead of participating in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim
    please note that I am truly not intending to come across as conceited
    Not at all. If you believe you are the one most suited to fighting him, then you may be right. I only hope he will accomodate your wish.

    In other news, I've almost finished updating my character. Expect it to be done by tonight. (Tonight my time that is.)
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    Yo there, everybody. Y'all can call me "Shad" if you like, heard there was some kinda skirmish in the works eh? Mmmhhh...Something about 'recruiting', yeah.

    I'm Dante/GrimmJaw's friend, here to help The Masters. ^^ My character I will be using can be found here.

    Hope to have some fun.

    EDIT: Hehe, oopsy. Buuut...just remembered that I forgot (hah) to mention: Point me where-ever I need be pointed hehe. Will try to get a hold on this as best I can on my own but if anyone wants to give me the low-down, it would be much appreciated. ;P
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    As it stands, I also recognize Godean as taking the chief role during battle in the absence of the Grand Master.

    I am also here to offer my assisstance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucid
    As it stands, I also recognize Godean as taking the chief role during battle in the absence of the Grand Master.

    I am also here to offer my assisstance.
    I agree. I don't have much time but if my help is needed, I'm here..
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    Not that my opinion counts for anything, but as an Ambassador and a moderator of sorts in this war, I should like to note that, by the standards of the Masters organization, Godean would be the acting leader in times of "war" as proclaimed by the organization, due to his position as the Pillar of Conflict.

    In my eyes, that makes him the leader in any matters specifically regarding the aforementioned war until Anomaly makes his return. This should clear up any questions as to whether or not the Masters have a figurehead to lead them into battle.
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    I've an honest question. While I am fine with leaving out the fortress...

    How the hell can they claim they're *attacking* us, and get to choose the battlefield?

    *IF* they choose to attack us, they come to us, meaning it would be our choice as to how that happens.
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    A valid point, and one worth querying. I suggest a response from ToroMor is necessary in regards to this matter. The assaulting faction certainly shouldn't be able to fight in their own backyard... that's why it's called an assault, isn't it? I see no reason why the locations shouldn't be the choice of the Masters, or at the very least, some sort of mutually created battlegrounds (in an OOC note, perhaps the latter would be the wisest choice; as writers, I know you can come up with some awesome ideas together).
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    After it being cleared up that they weren't actually attacking the fortress, I think it becomes our choice in the battlefield.

    My logic on it: You attack us. Ok, well we choose to sit on our asses here, xxx. You can't attack us unless you come to us. I don't see any members of TM complaining that we can't use our fortress. I'd certainly enjoy the amusement of their failed attack on it, but I don't expect to use it or need it. However, I don't see how BoD would have any choice in the battlefield if they do choose to come for us.
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    For christs sake you two, do us all a favor and chill out. Prodigal Madness, Vicky is a moderator moderator of the clubs section, thus giving her the right to post in TM thread. It's not like it is the end of the world. Vicky, Pm has asked you politely to not post here in the thread, though you don't have to oblige, it would help to quell the drama that is starting up between you two. That settles that, if you two still don't agree, take it to AIM or some other form of messenger.

    Now, back to the topic at hand. Prodigal, I see where you're coming from, I do believe that since the BoD is attacking us, we should have the rights to pick the place in which the war will unfold, be it our fortress (Which I would advise against, just so we don't have people complaining that it is too "cheap") or some sort of open area (It may seem bland, be we're all good writers here and could probably spice it up a bit. It would also make things less complicated...which is a good thing when it comes to war).

    As of now, I believe our fighting force is as follows.

    -Godean
    -Slim
    -Prodigal Madness
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    -Lucid

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    ((Entirely in OOC fashion: I was making a serious suggestion earlier when I noted that you should work together with the BoD in terms of whipping up some sort of battleground. It should be someplace near the fortress, so that could create a nice backdrop for the scenery. I honestly don't know much about your fortress, but from what I understand, the world beneath it would probably be some sort of gruesome, uncivilized locale, would it not? Forgive me if I'm mistaken as I haven't really looked into this. And if that's not the case, well... some sort of unforgiving terrain would make for an awesome battle site anyway. Something jagged and rocky and otherwise uninhabitable -- making for all kinds of interesting interactivity between man (or demon) and earth. Just my two cents, of course.))
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    I don't care where we fight quite honestly. A good writer can make good use of any obstacle. Seeing as we are, for the most part, quite exceptional writers; we should be able to make exceptional use of any obstacle. Applying slight boundaries that require you to bend your creativity is some of the most fun you can have in composing a fantastic story. I say let a third party choose and describe the scenic locale. Keep everything on an even playing field. Regardless, this should make for an interesting match, no matter how things happen to unfold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoColt04
    the world beneath it would probably be some sort of gruesome, uncivilized locale, would it not?
    By it's very nature, the fortress could be anywhere. But alas, you are probably right in this case. It does seem to be a suitable place to host a war such as this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim
    I say let a third party choose and describe the scenic locale. Keep everything on an even playing field.
    A good idea. If both sides are willing to let a third party describe the location of the war, then perhaps that would be best. Although, if the war is a series of one-on-one battles, would it not be possible for different combats to take place in different locations? One location is all well and good for a mass battle, but if it is a series of different battles in the one place, how do we keep up with collateral damage? (And I assume there will be lots...) If a giant crater is blasted into the earth in one thread, while the ground is set ablaze in another... continuity is lost. That, and if all the fights happen in one place, it would perfectly all right (story-line wise) for someone to jump into someone else's and help out.

    That is, of course, assuming continuity and realism hold in a fictional environment. *wry grin*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep
    Although, if the war is a series of one-on-one battles, would it not be possible for different combats to take place in different locations?
    I thought about that too. Perhaps multiple 'third parties' could create the battlefields. then we could randomly select which pair fights where.

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    As it has been approved by forum authority, I accept Godean as your stand-in leader unless Anomaly returns or Godean resigns.
    So by default, I will fight against you, Godean.
    If you don't deem this favorable, feel free to send your best warrior instead.
    But be warned, all our warriors are overwhelming jugernauts of doom and by no means less devastating then their leader.
    So choose your formation wisely.

    For the terms of battle:
    It will be 5 separate battles, each a one-on-one clash.
    There will be no interaction between the battles (besides perhaps for merely "decorative" purposes).

    We could use a common introduction for the battles.
    If so, it should contain a portrayal of the BoD armies invading the Masters' world/land/hideout and how the opponents agreed to decide the war by the upcoming duels. Using the Masters' fortress as a "decoration" sounds good to me. This will then serve as a background scene for the individual battles, which will describe the individual surroundings in more detail.
    I'm also fine with a 3rd party writer for this task.
    However, I must insist on some obligatory incredients, which I am willing to discuss anytime with whoever will write the intro.

    Furthermore, I suggest the following:
    - character introduction/description should be done in a separate thread or in the first battle post.
    - being the attackers, the BoD warriors have the right to do the 1st post in their respective battle threads
    - the level of allowed super-human abilities. Of course, god-moding will be disallowed. But since most characters (on both sides as I assume) are superhuman or not even human at all, too much realism would be absurd. I'm sure the judge(s) will find a suitable policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToroMor
    Furthermore, I suggest the following:
    - character introduction/description should be done in a separate thread or in the first battle post.
    - being the attackers, the BoD warriors have the right to do the 1st post in their respective battle threads
    - the level of allowed super-human abilities. Of course, god-moding will be disallowed. But since most characters (on both sides as I assume) are superhuman or not even human at all, too much realism would be absurd. I'm sure the judge(s) will find a suitable policy.
    First battle post should always contain the description... However, the ABB should be linked within the first post to make things simpler. For BOTH parties involved.

    The first post should depend on combatants. After all, we'll know you're coming. If one of us chooses to set up an ambush of some sort, then that would give us the first post. I say it should be done as it always is, the person who finishes the post first gets it up first.

    I'm not sure if you mean this is to be done on a higher level of combat, or if you're saying this shouldn't real life-ish. o_O There's *always* an amount of realism to everything. Just depends on what is 'real' for the time. If suggesting a higher level of combat than typically done in battles... Again, I'm afraid I'm going to have to laugh.

    By all means, fight the Pillars at full power, near their own fortress, that they can draw power from. Not remotely wise, but sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigal Madness
    If suggesting a higher level of combat than typically done in battles... Again, I'm afraid I'm going to have to laugh.

    By all means, fight the Pillars at full power, near their own fortress, that they can draw power from. Not remotely wise, but sure.
    There's something I don't understand about this.
    The way you put that, is that you're going to god mode. >.>

    And also, what's wrong with DBZ'ish fights? There's no such thing as a "typical" combat level in RPBs. They're all different.

    I'm just wondering why you're "laughing". What's so funny? I mean.. if you're a good writer, you should be able to do any kind of "level" of combat, or what have you.

    It just seems to me that you're giving off a vibe that you can't handle "higher levels" of combat.


    That's all that I'm wondering about your post. Let me know if my theories are wrong again. =P

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    Hmm, seems to be a pretty typical set up if you ask me. Nothing special. o.O

    The character I'll be using is about the weakest I could find, my primary two characters (The first takes appearance after my avatar, the secondary after my signature. =P Tribute characters to GG, some say. ^^ ) are at a "level", and of various skills and "experience" that make them illegal for use here at this site--according to your rules anyway.

    A very flexible character that doesn't rely on sheer outright power to win battles (none of mine do, actually. I've done this for a long time...tactics are more useful =P )...

    Even if he isn't my strongest I would like my temporary comrades to know I'm willing to fight any of your enemies and am confident of my victory. If I am defeated in this war, my opponent will have my gratitude.

    Not cocky at all, just proven experience...and anyway, me thinks I would like to actually apply for this "Club", rather than be purely hired arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadrach
    Not cocky at all, just proven experience...and anyway, me thinks I would like to actually apply for this "Club", rather than be purely hired arms...
    Well, the rules and stuff are in the very first post. If you want to join:

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    2.)You may battle a Masters member in a Masters organized fight to determine if you are elidgable for entry. It will be a requirement as of May 7 2006 that all applicants supply a sample of an 'rp' post in their INITIAL request to join The Masters.
    3.) On certain, rare, occasions offer of membership will be presented to those who have demonstrated remarkable skill in battle outside of an official setting.
    So there you go. Just post an RP-style post introducing your character to us, and requesting membership. The fight may have to wait, but that depends on whether anyone is willing to do before the war.

    Prodigal Madness, you're not adding anything to the business at hand. And arguing with a moderator is just going to cause unwanted trouble. Do I need to remind you that the Pillars don't actually need to be anywhere near the fortress to draw on it's power? So how does fighting near it make it *any* different? It doesn't. It's just a normal fight.
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    Oh, please don't take it as an argument. I just wasn't understanding what he was trying to say in his post, and wondered if he could clear it up for me, and he did so.

    Although the explanation for his amusement didn't really come through to me.
    To me, it's always good to fight someone at their strongest, as it presents the toughest challenge.

    And if they don't fight you at their strongest, and let's say you win when they fight at that stage, it's like they let you win. You know?

    That's not cool. xD

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    Well it seems ToroMor has decided on 5 one on one battles. Would there, in anyway, be a way to increase this number as to allow inclusion of the others who wish to fight since we have more than five people who wish to fight?
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    As the BOD are the ones issuing the challenge, I'd say it's up to them to decide if they want to allow more battles to take place. They have chosen 5, so anyone not fighting will be in reserve - in case something happens to one of our five combatants that stops them from posting.

    If they would be willing to allow more, we could indeed have more - but 5 is an easy number to keep track of. If we had, say 10 battles running concurrently, that would get a bit hectic would it not?

    If we are agreed, then I say let Godean select which 5 will be first into the fray. And the choice shouldn't be made simply on position within the group - if a better fighter has a lower rank, that should not exclude that fighter from selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradoxical Prophet
    As the BOD are the ones issuing the challenge, I'd say it's up to them to decide if they want to allow more battles to take place. They have chosen 5, so anyone not fighting will be in reserve - in case something happens to one of our five combatants that stops them from posting.
    As we have already said, the conditions and terms stand, and are not subject to change. There's a reason we picked the number five for the number of fighters, and if need be, I would gladly explain it. But as it is, we will not be increasing that number.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paradoxical Prophet
    If they would be willing to allow more, we could indeed have more - but 5 is an easy number to keep track of. If we had, say 10 battles running concurrently, that would get a bit hectic would it not?
    PP has just mentioned one of the reasons for the decision to select five fighters.

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    Hey all dang i get one everday for a week and no one gets on. then i go a week and don't get on and everyone gets on. Well im busy reading the last few post but well added more to this when i have finshed. I may not get enought time to read them all today. So i went ahead and posted.

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    In all fairness, I did say to have the Fortress as a backdrop -- to make it "fair" it could be miles away... I assume it's large enough to be seen from quite a distance, yes? Anyway, since we're looking at five different 1v1 fights here, I was thinking of having members of TM form a pentagon (or star, or some otherwise five-pointed figure) around the Fortress to protect it on all sides from the invading Brotherhood. That way, all the fights are separate, there's lots of room to destroy individual battlegrounds without affecting the others, AND there's a legitimate excuse for terrain to vary for each battle as well.

    Granted, it couldn't be as vast a difference as mountains and beaches, but at least there's more room to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoColt04
    In all fairness, I did say to have the Fortress as a backdrop -- to make it "fair" it could be miles away... I assume it's large enough to be seen from quite a distance, yes? Anyway, since we're looking at five different 1v1 fights here, I was thinking of having members of TM form a pentagon (or star, or some otherwise five-pointed figure) around the Fortress to protect it on all sides from the invading Brotherhood. That way, all the fights are separate, there's lots of room to destroy individual battlegrounds without affecting the others, AND there's a legitimate excuse for terrain to vary for each battle as well.

    Granted, it couldn't be as vast a difference as mountains and beaches, but at least there's more room to play with.
    A very good idea, but I must say there are definately ways to make the terrain as vast, in terms of difference, as you wish. All you need is a little creativity. For example: "The pentagon created by the Masters had another effect aswell (or) a side effect. It reflected the light cast upon it in a way that created the visage of a completely altered terrain to that on which they stood. This ...apparition... of sorts was so powerful that the objects it reflected were in fact solidified; creating a completely new, interactive, terrain," or something to that effect.

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