What do you think of this man?

[che]

I believe Ivalice is south of Hawaii.

See I can play the sarcasm game to. Just because you took a chart probably made by Obama doesn't make you right. I think the looking at the situation we Americans are in now is my proof.

We are out of jobs, we have Obamacare, we have a president who spends more time beating around the bush than answering real questions about real problems.

Hahah. You are hilarious.

[Judge Magistrate]

Hahah. You are hilarious.

I consider myself a comedian so glad I made you laugh.

[nix]

Judge, either counter Che's points with actual fact/any kind of effort or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

[Joe]

I mentioned this in my VM, but for anyone else who might want a news agency that is at least semi balanced - I tend to find CNN International and Al-Jazeera English to be fairly unbiased. I also enjoy HuffPo, as they are fairly reasonable, and not nearly as horribly biased as sites like "TheBlaze", which is basically FreeRepublic in pseudo news form.

I'd include NPR here, but we all know that's an Obama Stronghold of Liberal Elitism(tm), much like the entire news media besides Fox.

Frankly, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that che has a far better grasp on reality than a decent handful of people in the thread. At least he can back up his positions with evidence rather than just spouting feelings and refusing any concession.

[RagnaToad]

This thread is funny in a sad way.

[loaf]

This thread is just sad.

[OnOneRyder]

I for one wasn't so aware that one man could be blamed for so much, probably because he shouldn't be? It's too easy to pass the blame onto this one man when millions arn't willing to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they're more worried about incredibly small tax raises than they are about sending thousands off to foreign countries to die. Ignorance and greed by the public is the major contributing factor to all the problems you're currently facing.

[RagnaToad]

I for one wasn't so aware that one man could be blamed for so much, probably because he shouldn't be? It's too easy to pass the blame onto this one man when millions arn't willing to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they're more worried about incredibly small tax raises than they are about sending thousands off to foreign countries to die. Ignorance and greed by the public is the major contributing factor to all the problems you're currently facing.

I like you

[Alpha]

While I think your targeting Jusge a little too much (mod?), this whole idea of fighting wars to preserve freedom is ridiculous.

Which freedoms? Where? When?

Gay rights? Abortion rights? The right to a healthy environment and equitable economic system? Which one of those was al-Qaeda, or Saddam, targeting?

The Arab Spring was what the Niddle East needed, nor Bush's wars. Granted, Obama couldn't have just yanked Anerica from them, but I guarantee that the basis for a sustainable peace, sovereignty and freedom cones from within, not from beyond.

Which countries intervened in the struggle for Anerican independence?

[nix]

While I think your targeting Jusge a little too much (mod?), this whole idea of fighting wars to preserve freedom is ridiculous.

Which freedoms? Where? When?

Gay rights? Abortion rights? The right to a healthy environment and equitable economic system? Which one of those was al-Qaeda, or Saddam, targeting?

The Arab Spring was what the Niddle East needed, nor Bush's wars. Granted, Obama couldn't have just yanked Anerica from them, but I guarantee that the basis for a sustainable peace, sovereignty and freedom cones from within, not from beyond.

Which countries intervened in the struggle for Anerican independence?

HAHA are you posting from an Iphone by any chance?

[OceanEyes28]

nix, you can argue opinions but stop trolling and name-calling omg.

[che]

So Judge Magistrate. Have you realized that your opinion is a very uneducated one yet? You can keep pointing fingers at everyone in this thread and stuff, I can deal with that. What I don't deal with well is the fact that I might not have gotten through to you at all with my posts. I just don't want your stubborn attitude to be the reason you're going to be uneducated forever. And now I can sleep better because nobody can say che never tried to help anyone.

[Judge Magistrate]

So Judge Magistrate. Have you realized that your opinion is a very uneducated one yet? You can keep pointing fingers at everyone in this thread and stuff, I can deal with that. What I don't deal with well is the fact that I might not have gotten through to you at all with my posts. I just don't want your stubborn attitude to be the reason you're going to be uneducated forever. And now I can sleep better because nobody can say che never tried to help anyone.

I'm willing to accpet your point che. I never said that I wouldn't you provided solid reasoning and everything. What I don't like now is nix sitting on his fat arse and insulting me.

[nix]

Fat? I'm deeply offended, how dare you flame me..

[seanb]

Someone close this please?

It was started on a whim because of all the Obama threads that were closed here, unfairly IMO.

Now it's become a snowball of bickering, which at the least is mildly amusing.

Thanks

[nix]

No I like this thread, I demand it be left open!!

[Meier Link]

OP requests that the thread be closed. I am in agreeance that this thread has ran its course but will leave it open for time being to see if anythin of decent content properly researched and sourced comes out if it.

As far a off topic posting, flamming, flame baiting, trolling and spam are concerned it needs to stop now.

Ally feel free to close this if you wish.