Why is Gamestop so sexist?

[Angel of Iniquity]

HEY quit spamming up MY topic. Pweeeease



Remind my not to go to that Gamestop anymore.

PS it's sexist to claim that females suck at videogames....

LOL
sorry, stereotyping has some truth to it haha, as it is usually based on an community based fact.
But yea, there were 2 blondes working at my gamestop awhile back. I don't think they knew what they were doing. I think they were speaking dutch.
I bought FF10-2 for the first time, and one of them said. "Oh, I didn't like that game"... Then about 20 seconds of awkward silence... So awkward... ... ..
Oh and HUSKYS are so awesome!

[Selcopa]

I'll make the sexist comment, girls are terrible gamers, I am better at mario kart, counter strike, and world of warcraft then the majority of girls that play them, and id even go as far to say that most guys are better at those same games compared to most girls.

And if you don't like it, feel free to comment on my inability to draw, write legible words, sew, prepare intricate meals and other things that women are stereotypically better than men it. Hey I embrace stereotypes most of the time
(Of course then i'm probably gonna mention how I don't forget where I parked my car when I go grocery shopping, but go for it)

[Rocky]

I'll make the sexist comment, girls are terrible gamers, I am better at mario kart, counter strike, and world of warcraft then the majority of girls that play them, and id even go as far to say that most guys are better at those same games compared to most girls.

And yes, this is 100% true. Sorry to say it, but anyone who watches e-sports or has any grasp of competitive knowledge can verify this. The rate of professional videogame players is heavily favored to males over females in virtually every game and genre.

[Dan558]

I'll make the sexist comment, girls are terrible gamers, I am better at mario kart, counter strike, and world of warcraft then the majority of girls that play them, and id even go as far to say that most guys are better at those same games compared to most girls.

And if you don't like it, feel free to comment on my inability to draw, write legible words, sew, prepare intricate meals and other things that women are stereotypically better than men it. Hey I embrace stereotypes most of the time
(Of course then i'm probably gonna mention how I don't forget where I parked my car when I go grocery shopping, but go for it)

lol I admire your bluntness on the subject. I actually dance around a solid opinion on matters like this because I don't want to offend anyone. So continuing with that tone sometimes when I see stereotypes blurted out like this my mind screams "YES! YES! Why do people reject the truth like this?" other times it disgusts me (i.e. like racial hate for hates sake)

[che]

I'll make the sexist comment, girls are terrible gamers, I am better at mario kart, counter strike, and world of warcraft then the majority of girls that play them, and id even go as far to say that most guys are better at those same games compared to most girls.

This is the equivalent of saying there are 100% more idiots in Madison,Wisconsin that in Tusla, Oklahoma. If there are 5 idiots in Tulsa, and 10 in Madison, that statement is true, but can you see the weight?

It's not as A or B as that, though. If we (somehow) compare the ratio of men to women who play videogames, we will get an uneven number favoring men (I believe). Then we will also have to seperate those into casual gamers, hardcore gamers, competitive gamers, etc.

But the real reason why everyone stares at you when you walk into gamestop, Mel, is because you're sexy as fawk!

[Selcopa]

This is the equivalent of saying there are 100% more idiots in Madison,Wisconsin that in Tusla, Oklahoma. If there are 5 idiots in Tulsa, and 10 in Madison, that statement is true, but can you see the weight?

It's not as A or B as that, though. If we (somehow) compare the ratio of men to women who play videogames, we will get an uneven number favoring men (I believe). Then we will also have to seperate those into casual gamers, hardcore gamers, competitive gamers, etc.

But the real reason why everyone stares at you when you walk into gamestop, Mel, is because you're sexy as fawk!

Ahh but that is why I made the comment about "elite circles" like high end raiding guilds or leagues in FPS games, where a guy will simply get removed from those circles if they are terabad, while with a girl everybody just picks up the slack because she posted a picture of her IRL on the forums and leaves winky faces at the end of all their sentences.

@part2 pics or it didnt happen, although im sure there's a RL pic thread here somewhere, too lazy to track down, actually scratch all this i dont care either way lol

[che]

Ahh but that is why I made the comment about "elite circles" like high end raiding guilds or leagues in FPS games, where a guy will simply get removed from those circles if they are terabad, while with a girl everybody just picks up the slack because she posted a picture of her IRL on the forums and leaves winky faces at the end of all their sentences.

@part2 pics or it didnt happen, although im sure there's a RL pic thread here somewhere, too lazy to track down, actual scratch all this i dont care either way lol

There's also the guy that's really terribad but the guild leader keeps him in the main raid (or whatever the equivalent is in other games) because he is friends irl with the guild leader. What's the difference?

Honestly, both are pretty shitty in terms of a performance standpoint, but what if statistics show the raid (which is made up of 75% hetero guys) performs better when the female is on vent? What about the fact that the guild leader's friend irl makes a shitload of potions for raid buffs and does a ton of behind the scene shit that nobody has the time/will to do even though he's 10% shittier than the average person on the A-team?

[Selcopa]

and real sports if we wanna throw those in, just sayin.

[Selcopa]

The difference is the % of the guys that get their spot in elite circles by doing this. And the % of girls that do this, is significantly higher. Id say at least 10x higher.

If the raid performs better because a girl is on vent then there are some underlying problems that need to be dealt with without needing to sandbag a girl in. As far as the shitty friend, you might keep him in the guild and let him do the farm stuff, but he's not gonna get in the tough progression raids, not in a healing or tanking role, and if he's ****ing up as a damage role either he's gonna get replaced or people are going to leave. And they will, i've left a guild before seeing this happened and overall it lead to the collapse of the guild(not me leaving, although I like to think i started the charge)

[che]

The difference is the % of the guys that get their spot in elite circles by doing this. And the % of girls that do this, is significantly higher. Id say at least 10x higher.

If the raid performs better because a girl is on vent then there are some underlying problems that need to be dealt with without needing to sandbag a girl in. As far as the shitty friend, you might keep him in the guild and let him do the farm stuff, but he's not gonna get in the tough progression raids, not in a healing or tanking role, and if he's ****ing up as a damage role either he's gonna get replaced or people are going to leave. And they will, i've left a guild before seeing this happened and overall it lead to the collapse of the guild(not me leaving, although I like to think i started the charge)

If it were mostly girls who held their spot in elite circles all legit-like, and I was in the minority being a male (role reversal), I'm pretty sure I'd feel awesome about being one of the only males and I might be a little extra flirty to keep my spot in raids.

I specifically noted that the guild leader's friend is 10% shitter. If your guild cares/is competitive enough to care about 10%, chances are they are going to drop that person from the raid whether they are a chick or not. I've seen it happen myself, I used to be in Death and Taxes back when I played. But this has more to do with the guild leadership than anything.

Anyway, bottom line: It's a game, people will choose who they would rather play with over people they don't. It's not always based on skill, and some of it is compatibility. You can put 11 of the best soccer plays on the same team, but if they don't work well together/aren't on the same page they aren't going to be much of a team.

The men who are ultra desperate guild leaders that keep girls around because they think they will have a chance to sleep with them are just kidding themselves (most of the time). But hey, you never know I guess!

[Selcopa]

Well when you do sleep with them its not because of your legit WoW skills i'll say that, and i do remember D&T, I was in a guild called Consequence from Burning Legion, i'd be surprised if you recognized it, but were ranked globally during the Naxx period, although not super high.

There is a compatibility thing, but the point is that a girl is much more commonly avoiding those standard filters by brushing up on the higher ranking players, and even though the general consensus is that the guild would be better without her raiding, but stays in because the guild leader says so.

[che]

Well when you do sleep with them its not because of your legit WoW skills i'll say that, and i do remember D&T, I was in a guild called Consequence from Burning Legion, i'd be surprised if you recognized it, but were ranked globally during the Naxx period, although not super high.

There is a compatibility thing, but the point is that a girl is much more commonly avoiding those standard filters by brushing up on the higher ranking players, and even though the general consensus is that the guild would be better without her raiding, but stays in because the guild leader says so.

Is it the girl's fault, or the person allowing her to take advantage of them, though?

[Dan558]

Since at the moment the convo has shifted to girls on teams. I think it's insanely annoying the frequency in which girls shamelessly flirt on online games. It sickens me to the point where i usually have to turn off voice chat or ignore text altogether to keep from yelling at the bitch (I say this because that's what flirts are) to stop it.

It's so damn distasteful that I resign to the fact that they all must be butt-ugly women who get zero attention in real life so they constantly have to reassure their place in a circle of guys who can't see her by being a unconsequential tease/flirt. It's shameful how many times I have gone through entire sittings while five guys will fawn over a girl and she just laps it up like a whore trying to come off as cute (not just one person one time but many girls on various games)

Every one seems to always add "hon", "hun" or something to that affect with every typed message.

[Selcopa]

[Cheesevixen]

IDK I've never had that experience there. Maybe they've just never seen a cute girl before? Sry those guys are weirdo's. >>

[Rhaps]

I have two gamestops within my region that I frequent; One is run by a large* scenester lady who kinda scares me (on account of glaring at me when I peruse, not the large scenester part.) and the second one is run by casual gamers.
They didn't even know Trauma Center had sequels for christ sakes

On topic, I think the sexism isn't the employing requisite of gamestop, it may just be a recurring trend in the people they hire.
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*Large as in fat.

[SOLDIER #819]

Did "pro gaming" get really popular without me noticing? I know the ladies go crazy in Korea for the Starcraft champs, but is it getting that much coverage here?

and the second one is run by casual gamers.

With any luck that'll mean they're less inclined to recommend games I don't want, ask me if I want to pre-order x, or steal my pre-order bonus styluses because they love the series soooo much and just had to have 3 for themselves.

[Block]

Did "pro gaming" get really popular without me noticing? I know the ladies go crazy in Korea for the Starcraft champs, but is it getting that much coverage here?


With any luck that'll mean they're less inclined to recommend games I don't want, ask me if I want to pre-order x, or steal my pre-order bonus styluses because they love the series soooo much and just had to have 3 for themselves.

It is making a much bigger splash than it used to (pro gaming that is). Obviously it's no SC2 in Korea level, but Intel and a few other companies are pushing it pretty hard for the Americas.

[kupo]

heh, this thread made me think of my most recent visit to gamestop. i went 2 sundays ago to pick up my pokemon white preorder and grab some lunch right after church. so i walk into a gamestop in a dress, heals and my ever-so-sharp looking 3 yr old son and stand in line of 12 yr olds and their parents all there for the same reason. they had a box of ps2 games without the cases so i rummaged through to find a copy of 'mercenaries' and decided to get it (i had lost my copy about 3 years ago). once its my turn to check out i had the guy 'mercenaries'. he looks at the game, looks up at me with one eyebrow raised giving me the 'your a girl that actually plays this game', then finishes the check out.

anther time (not at the same gamestop location) i was looking a new psp game to play while on a trip. i was the only person in the store at the time so one of the employees and i strike up a bit of a conversation. long story short, he brought up the topic of FF
guy - so do you play any final fantasy at all?
me - ya i do, awesome series
guy - let me guess, like most girls your favorite is vii cause of cloud
me - actually no, i enjoyed playing I and tactics more. i never understood why girls had a fascination with cloud

guy looked stumped

[LocoColt04]

he looks at the game, looks up at me with one eyebrow raised giving me the 'your a girl that actually plays this game', then finishes the check out.

I actually get really excited (HAR HAR) when girls pick up something other than some crappy pet game or something loaded with pink. It's surprising to me that there are still employees at GameStop locations that still behave in a sexist manner. I guess it all depends upon your region. Up here in DFW, we're so close to the corporate office (literally, it takes me 20 minutes from my place) that those idiots are few and far between. Customer service is a massive focus, and a lot of that stems from not behaving like a total douchewaffle.

The average store around here is staffed with 30-50% females; there are a couple of stores in the area with almost entirely female staffs.

To answer the very original question, I can only hope that it's just that one location and not indicative of your entire region. I'd suggest trying another location, and if you're honestly bothered by the demeanor of those employees, I'll be happy to give you the customer service number (because honestly, creeping over your shoulder and leering at you is completely abhorrent behavior).

[Dan558]

Did "pro gaming" get really popular without me noticing? I know the ladies go crazy in Korea for the Starcraft champs, but is it getting that much coverage here?

I think at this point it's still in their own head. Gaming in general is more universally accepted but being a "pro gamer" really means nothing to the general public. Only other "pro gamers" and the obsessive wannabes actually hold them in any regard. Casual hate is actually more popular then actual pro gamers and its hard to understand why. Casual gamers have overall made gaming have more of a positive view and following. Even still it's really hate for hates sake "ooooo this person actually plays games for fun!?!? how dare he/she! They should always learn the ins and outs of every game so it becomes more of a chore to maintain then a fun way to pass the time!"

Anyways back to the flirty girls subject from before. It's even obvious on this site that several girls oversexualize their account be it with little hearts of massive "sexy" pictures and stupidly calling other members "lovers" or calling themselves sex goddesses. Barf. Get over yourself.

[Selcopa]

Haha scenesters, so anti conformist that they all conform to wearing the same anti conformist clothes

oh corporations, you and your sneaky hot topic.

[loaf]

Read first page. About girls in games and clans. My WoW guild had 10+ girls. At least 6 of them were good. I would actually prefer to group with 2 of them over a lot of other people.

I actually personally know 3 girls who are pretty good at games. One of them is amazing at Mario Kart 64, wins mini tournaments.

I am a girl, and I own you all at video games. Tru Story.

P.S. *Anyone who types like this, needs to be shot. Making yourself look like a 6th grader.*

[che]

P.S. *Anyone who types like this, needs to be shot. Making yourself look like a 6th grader.*

*All six graders should be shot*

[Unknown Entity]

I owned a guy cashier once in GAME. He obviously didn't get the job because he was passionate about games. He came walking up to me all sly like, and asked if I needed help. Out of eveeeryone in the store, he picks the female on the other side of the room. I just smiled and said "No thanks," and got back to looking through the games.

He went to walk away but came back, after he saw me pick up a Dead Space 2 pre-order case, and said that I wouldn't like that kind of game (implying it's too violent). I simply said "I'm pretty sure I will. I bothered to platinum the first game," and then left the store. His friend who was working behind the register started laughing at him.

I don't know why they'd be so sexist. If you like games, and you're a girl (which you are ), go into the game store with your head held high. If they want to act off, let them, but don't let it get to you. They're obviously not mature enough.

[sayian]

lol we have a game store called Replay, there probably more chiks that work there than guys... pretty attractive too

[Glorious Raven]

I have to say, I've never had any kind of a sexist issue with the employees at any GameStop I've been to. They've all been really helpful to me, and in the last one I was in, the cashier and I got into a conversation about Tales of games. I've never received strange looks because I'm a female gamer walking in to look at games.

The other part of this topic that popped up, I'm not going to comment on other than to say sometimes the way people look at things amazes me.

[Merlin]

Gamestop has the same problem that Best Buy, Radio Shack, WalMart, K-Mart, and other brick-and-mortar stores have... the application "test" they give you is specifically designed to weed out decent people and leave only the trash. The majority of people left are assholes and douche-nozzles. Occasionally you luck out and a decent person squeaks by. The people that work at Gamestop are not indicative of the gaming community, nor are guilds in games where you are added based off of who you know, who's ass you kissed, or how many times you flash your pixelated boobs.

I pretty much abstain from going into stores anymore unless I absolutely have to. The people that work there and the customers alike are equally stupid. I can't even walk into a store without at least three people walking up to me and asking for help with something. I find that more offensive than the people who work there. Go ask the jackass leaning on the pole not doing his job with the tag that says "How may I help you?" on it? It isn't that they are asking me for help rather than the people that work there... I don't mind helping people if I'm not in a hurry. What I have a problem with is that after I respond to them they ALL say the same thing "Oh I thought you worked here". Why... is it because I'm a white male in my 20s? OBVIOUSLY I work there even though I'm not even wearing anything that resembles the uniform for that store.

[LocoColt04]

Perhaps a slight segue, but try walking into Target with a red shirt. Doesn't matter what your gender or age is, you'll run into exactly the issue Merlin described.


edit:
Also,

see? now 50% women is just a misrepresentation of the girl gamer community, makes me just think that girls are hired on purpose to overcompensate for possible sexism.To me its just fighting ignorance with more ignorance.

I can't sit here and say that isn't the case everywhere, because I've met my share of skeevy managers in the past. The ones who hire girls for sex appeal and such... they do exist. I'm not for a moment going to tell you that they don't. However, the example I gave above explicitly references some of the stores I've worked at; at one location, the entire management has become female since I left, and most of the staff is female as well. They ALL play games - and not just World of Warcraft. Just because YOUR community doesn't have a lot of girl gamers doesn't mean that EVERY community doesn't.

The sexism comes even more from the customers than it does from the staff. When I used to work there, I would have people wait in line to ask me questions instead of going to the more-than-capable person next to me. I remember one instance when my boss of that era asked a group of teenage boys if they needed help, and they said they were waiting to ask me a question. She offered to answer it, but they declined. When I was done with the customers I was helping, they started asking me a whole bunch of questions about the 360 (which I didn't yet own) and I promptly redirected them to the woman who would be better suited to answer their questions.

Could I have helped them? Sure. But I wanted to make the point that the woman over there was just as capable, if not moreso.

[Merlin]

Oh yeah, if you wear any shade of red into Target, you become a target. Same with Best Buy and the rest. I typically avoid wearing whatever color scheme the uniforms are for a business to avoid that, but in my case, it doesn't seem to alleviate the problem. Luckily the employees don't think I work there. That'd be even worse. What if they started asking me to do random shit in a store because they think I work there?

edit: And no they aren't trying to pick me up... or if they are, not a damned one of them is even semi-attractive. Same goes for the fact that I get a shitload of people claiming that I went to his or her high school. All Wal*mart fugly. I think you know what I mean... ^^