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    Firstly be very prepared, levels 80+ are best, also having top notch weapons and armours such as, Zodiac Spears(s) and a Tournesol is good. Also if you go to that secret merchant in the Dreadlands you can get good armour.

    Omega has only one attack, a single beam that takes off about 6k in life. so when setting up your gambits, you have to revolve around having everyone doing the same thing, but at different times. Why is this? Because in XII if you have singular classes for people, you lose one character and it is hard to recover. But if they all do the same thing, if you have the right gambits and enough items it can make any battle alot easier.

    When considering your party I advice you to use Basch, Ashe and Penelo. Basch is the strongest, Ashe is the best magic user, and Penelo is as quick as a mountain goat (which is surprisingly quick)

    Your gambits have to focus around have a few constants.
    - Bubble
    - Bravery
    - Faith
    - Downs.
    - Haste
    - Beserk

    A good gambit setup should be as follows:

    Basch:
    Ally: Any - Phoenix Down
    Ally: Any - Arise
    Ally: Health < 30% - Curaja
    Ally: Any - Remedy.
    Self - Bubble
    Foe: Any - Attack

    Now as he is your main attacker in this part, you will have to turn gambits on and off during the battle.

    Ashe:
    Ally: Any - Phoenix Down
    Ally: Any - Arise
    Ally: Any - Curaja
    Ally: Any - Bubble
    Ally: Basch - Haste
    Self: Haste
    Ally: Basch - Bravery
    Self: Bravery
    Self: Faith
    Ally: Any - Remedy
    Ally: Any - Esuna
    Foe: Any - Attack

    Penelo:
    Ally: Any - Phoenix Down
    Ally: Any - Arise
    Ally: Any - Curaja
    Ally: Any - Bubble
    Ally: Basch - Beserk
    Self: Haste
    Self: Bravery
    Self: Faith
    Ally: Any - Remedy
    Ally: Any - Esuna
    Foe: Any - Attack

    Okay so witht hat setup and a bit of modifying to you own flow you have a basic game plan.

    Have Basch with the strongest weapon, and as soon as the battle starts beserk him, Now you should be going into this battle with all augments already on each character so you don't need to worry about anything yet.

    A hasted Basch with beserk on and the tournesol for example can hit about 3 times with 9999 damage in the time it takes for the other party members to hit.

    Keeo basch beserked and make sure all augments remain on MAKE SURE BUBBLE IS ALWAYS ON OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE.

    If you cannot handle casting bubble all the time, bubble belts are a fantastic idea, as a matter of fact I advise them, don't worry about bubble gambits lol. have 3 bubble belts equipped.

    So here's the plan.

    Keep Basch beserked attackking full pace with Ashe and Penelo healing the person who gets struck and attacking, If shit gets thick and you cannot afford to be healing with 2 chars turn off the beserk gambit and justr have all three healing and attacking normally until you regain composure.

    Good Luck.
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    I equip a Ninja Sword, it says it is a 2h weapon, but it looks like a 1h weapon when being used. Just for the record, it is the Yagyu Darkblade. Can they be dual-wielded, as in someone has a Yagyu and an Orochi equipped at the same time?
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    I've been camping Larva Eater to get a Danjuro for two days straight. I'm doing the 1-zoning method and I get a spawn about every 15 minutes. No luck whatsoever.

    I heard there is a 3% chance for them to drop it. Does this mean:

    A.) After you kill it, there is a 3% chance of a Danjuro dropping to the floor.
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    B.) Whenever an item bag finally appears, there is only a 3% chance that this item will be Danjuro.

    PS: Does anyone know of an easier way? I heard a rumor that chaining 255 Necros will cause LE to always spawn but I'm a bit skeptical about that.
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    I beleive it is A off of a zero kill chain, as your kill chain goes up the chances of receiving the item goes up also.

    Just a quick suggestion, if at all possible move 2 screens away. This will cause all bad guys in the zone you want to fight into to respawn at once.

    255 Necros will cause LE
    Never heard about this, doubt it works that way. Woudn't waste my time trying either.
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    The thing about killing 256 Necrophobes is false, I read. From what I know, all you need to do is kill all the Necrophobes in the Leo Gate Stone area, and then keep going from that area to Waystone XIV. Just do that until the Larva Eater appears in the Waystone XIV area. And maybe getting the highest chain level is good, too? I mean, just getting the Larva Eater to drop something is hard, so you'll want to have the highest chain level to improve your chances of getting good items if it drops something. If you kill the Larva Eater, and you don't have a Danjuro, go two areas away form the Waystone XIV, but make sure to do it by passing through the Leo Gate Stone so that you don't accidentally respawn the Necrophobes that you killed. Do that, and then repeat the the going from Leo Gate Stone to Waystone XIV thing until it respawns again. You can actually chain the Larva Eater this way. I read this somewhere, and it worked for me, but I was never patient enough to get a Danjuro. Good luck.



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    I'm pretty sure Ixion is in the Penumbra part of the Pharos. Just take the lift to there, and if enemies are there, take the lift again and then back to Penumbra until no enemies appear. Then, just run around the giant circle path until Ixion decides to pop out into the open.



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    where / how did you get diamond armlet??

    and also about the treasure in Balfonheim Port [Villa no.2], if we opened it then re-zone again, is there any possibility for us to get the treasure?? [i forget the treasure name]
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    ok the diamond armlet is in the dalmasca westersand... u usually find it while doing the side event after u kill the flowering cactoid(hunt mark#2)... the balfonheim thing.. im not really sure what u are tlking about??.... sry i cant help u on tht part.
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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    Q. What level is recommended for Yaizmat? I'm level 85 now, but I died 8 times and I actually threw my controller. Any help?

    Q2. Can you only obtain Zodiac Spear once?

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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFantasy12 View Post
    Q. What level is recommended for Yaizmat? I'm level 85 now, but I died 8 times and I actually threw my controller. Any help?

    Q2. Can you only obtain Zodiac Spear once?
    For yiazmat, try levels 85+ for all members, reserves included. Use a smart gambit set-up, curaja below 30% HP, cura below 50%.
    All:Any-Arise
    Keep bubble, regen, protect, and haste on at all times. And dispel Yiazmat immediatley.

    Q.2 You can obtain the Zodiac Spear any amount of times.., once in the Nechrol (considering you didn't open the forbidden chests) and you can always obtain it in the Henne Mines, but it's extremely rare.
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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    Quote Originally Posted by ffking997 View Post
    and you can always obtain it in the Henne Mines, but it's extremely rare.
    FinalFantasy12, I wouldn't hold your breath on this means of getting a Zodiac Spear. There is only a 1/1000 chance of the Chest appearing with the spear inside of it. It is a total luck situation and generally requires way to many hours to obtain one from the chest let alone multiples from that chest. There is really no need for such a powerful weapon either. Every bad guy in the game can be taken down with out it.

    If you truly want one the best and easiest method is Nechrol method that FFking pointed out.

    Seeing I am lazy I am just going to source the chests you don't want to open and throw it in a spoiler tag.

    SPOILER!!:

    1. The chest in front of Old Dalan's place at the southern end of Rabanastre Lowtown.

    2. The chest in the Rabanastre Palace Cellar. Do not open the one at the southeast corner of the map. There will be either one or two chests that may appear there. To be safe, don't open any of them.

    3. The chest in the room at Nalbina Dungeons where you regain all your equipment back. There are more than one chest in the room so to be safe, just don't open any of them.

    4. The chest at the eastern-most section of the Phon Coast. There are 16 chests there arranged neatly near the shore. Don't open any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meier Link View Post
    FinalFantasy12, I wouldn't hold your breath on this means of getting a Zodiac Spear. There is only a 1/1000 chance of the Chest appearing with the spear inside of it. It is a total luck situation and generally requires way to many hours to obtain one from the chest let alone multiples from that chest. There is really no need for such a powerful weapon either. Every bad guy in the game can be taken down with out it.

    If you truly want one the best and easiest method is Nechrol method that FFking pointed out.

    Seeing I am lazy I am just going to source the chests you don't want to open and throw it in a spoiler tag.

    SPOILER!!:

    1. The chest in front of Old Dalan's place at the southern end of Rabanastre Lowtown.

    2. The chest in the Rabanastre Palace Cellar. Do not open the one at the southeast corner of the map. There will be either one or two chests that may appear there. To be safe, don't open any of them.

    3. The chest in the room at Nalbina Dungeons where you regain all your equipment back. There are more than one chest in the room so to be safe, just don't open any of them.

    4. The chest at the eastern-most section of the Phon Coast. There are 16 chests there arranged neatly near the shore. Don't open any of them.

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    Aww crap, I got the one near Old Dalan. I got a Zodiac Spear in Henne Mines just yesterday. And for Yaizmat, I went to Level 90. It still took 5 Hours.
    Thanks for the help!

    And one more question, this might have been asked before but where can you get the Ribbon? The guide said that it was in a chest at the field near Balfohiem(Sorry for spelling, can't remember the name.) but which chest? I've been in every area and opened every chest. Do I need to equip the Diamond Armlet?

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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    I got the second one and it's a 1/1000 chance if I remember.

    It roughly took me 4 hours of quick restarts to get it, btu was worth it with a party of Tournesol and 2 Zodiac Spears.

    Man haven't played that game in ages, Stupid WoW

    EDIT: Answering question.

    Entering the Crossfield area of Cerobi Steppe via the save point, Against the far side from where you're looking and slightly too the right is a chest behind the rocks. Now with diamond armlet you have a 50% for the chest to appear, 30% chance of an item and 10% of it being a ribbon.... Good luck, and may wanna look for some Fomaulhalts around there
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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    Here's a trick I found at one point, it supposedly makes the Henne Mines ZP spawn almost certain, never tried it myself though.

    One of the biggest headaches in the game is the Zodiac Spear if you have opened one of the 4 forbidden chests. Many people have spent countless hours trying to get the Zodiac Spear from the chest in the Henne Mines which is a 1/1,000 chance. Some people have been lucky and fluked one early whilst others have spent more time that they cared the to think about chasing that elusive spear. But now things are different. Let me explain.During one day I got 6 Zodiac Spears from the chest in the Henne Mines. Yes, you read that correctly.....SIX!!! Was I lucky? No. Did I use Armax or some other cheating device? No. So how did I do it? Well, I used the PS2's pre-programmed list of random numbers against itself. I am now going to show you how to get a Zodiac Spear from the Henne Mines but there are some conditions to this which must be met first. So here goes.....a step by step guide to the Zodiac Spear.

    1. First thing I have to say is that this was done on a Phat PS2 (PAL Version) Series 39003. You will have to test this out and see if your machine will also do it. It probably will.

    2. You MUST have one character who does NOT have the Brawler Licence activated. If you don't have a character without Brawler then you aren't going to be able to do it. The idea in this is that you have to hit yourself to move the Random Number Generator (RNG) and you could be hitting
    yourself over 80 times. On my file Vaan is level 99 but has a Grand Armour. He does over 3000 damage with his bare hands. Three or four hits and he is history.

    3. You need to know how to use the Immobilise Glitch. If you don't then I suggest you look it up in the FAQs and learn pretty fast if you want a Zodiac Spear (or 99).

    4. Teleport to the Henne Mines making sure you have Chronos Tears and a Nihopalaoa. I guess you could use magick but it's best not to do too many things that move the RNG along. Equip two characters with armour but no weapon. Helm can be equipped, it's up to you. It makes no difference to my character whether they have a Circlet on or not. Equip one character with the Nihopalaoa and equip the character WITHOUT Brawler with the Diamond Armlet. Make sure the character with the Diamond Armlet has 5000+ HP. If not, cast bubble on them now. Cast float on both characters and turn off all gambits. Now put Game Speed on SLOWEST.

    5. Put character with Nihopalaoa into reserves and just have your main character in the party. Save your game and then TURN OFF YOUR PS2!! This is imperative. A soft reset will NOT work and in trying to save time you will just waste time. Now reboot your game.

    6. Head from the Gate Crystal into the Ore Separation and towards the Phase 2 Dig but before you enter the Phase 2 Dig you MUST hit yourself twice. If you forget to do this then you are just going to have to start again. If you don't hit yourself twice then it is unlikely you will ever see the Zodiac Spear Chest. Having done this, enter the Phase 2 Dig.

    7. Now bring out the other character and get them to use a Chronos Tear on themselves which will put them under stop. Now with the flee button held in head down the passage. You will see 3 Abysteels in front of you and you may take some damage in this spot only. Run directly at the Abysteels and don't try to dodge them. I find they use Gnaw (instant attack) more if you try to
    dodge them. When you get to the intersection where there are 2 more Abysteels use the Immobilise Giltch to clear all of them away. Keep going through the area towards the ZS Chest using the Glitch to clear all enemies in your way. As you reach the brickwork you are at the point where you may have to renew the Chronos Tear on the character by the entrance. You will
    have to renew it at least once.

    8. You arrive at the Zodiac Spear Chest Location. It may not be there but there is a reasonable chance that it will. Doing it this way I reckon it appears a lot more than 10% of the time. Shame you're not guaranteed the Spear, eh? Now put your other character into the reserves. Do NOT forget to do this. Turn the game speed back to FASTEST and give your character just one gambit. SELF: ATTACK.

    9. Now you have to hope that you have the right pattern for the random numbers. What you are looking for are Combinations. The one of most interest to you is a 5 Hit Combo but that will be later. For now what you DON'T want is a 2 hit combo at all. If you get a 2 Hit Combo you may as well reset without even opening the chest because you ain't getting a Spear. It depends on whether you took any damage from the Abysteels as to when you get your first combo but I am going to assume you took none. There are 3 possibilities and this is what you need to be looking for:

    a) A 3 hit combo after about 21 hits. This will then be followed by a 4 hit combo after 29 more hits. Finally, after another 28 hits you will get a 5 hit combo.

    b) A 4 hit combo after about 54 hits. This will be followed by a 5 hit combo after a further 28 hits.

    c) A 5 hit combo after 82-84 hits

    If you get any other pattern then forget it. You won't get the Spear. One more thing. During the 5 hit combo MAKE SURE YOU TURN YOUR GAMBITS OFF!!! If you don't do this and your character hits themself after the 5 hit combo then your Spear is gone.

    10. If you didn't get a), b) or c) then turn your PS2 off and start again.

    11. If you got any of a), b) or c) then open the chest and get your ZODIAC SPEAR. If you have the Diamond Armlet on I will GUARANTEE you it will be there.

    12. Get the hell outta there and save your game.

    13. Rinse and repeat as many times as you want for as many Zodiac Spears as you want.

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    Umm i am stuck on the Dr.cid boss battle first encounter and my current levels are

    Ashe level 43 with a platinum sword,armor,helm

    Basche level 30 with a trident spear and platinum armor and helm

    Balthier level 39 with a platinum sword,armor,helm

    and my other party is:

    Fran level 39 with a traitors bow

    Penelo level 27 with no equipment

    and Vaan level 15 with no equipment


    so can somebody help me out.

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    i highly recomend you keep all of your characters at a high level, its usefull when your other members die
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    I take it you are in Draklor? Take out the Rooks one at a time. Keep haste on all your party members and keep silence on Cid. Do not use black magics why the Rooks are still alive.

    After all 4 rooks go down, pound cid as hard as you can. Quickenings can make for a fast death of a single rook.
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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    Why do you silence Cid? and i can only get one quickening chain once per battle 2 counting the inactives.

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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    Keeps him casting spells to buff his self up.

    If you can only get one then you are going to be stuck pounding the rooks into submission with normal attacks. Don't waste your time touching Cid until the Rooks are good and dead.
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    Can't i just raise my MP up with augments and rooks always halve my physical damage and they are hitting me for 500 a pop.

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    K well it seems like you need me to break out the big guns. You should not be having so many problems with this fight.

    Start the fight off by casting Haste on all active party members. Also if you by chance have Bravery, Haste (on your party) and any kind of multi-poisoning spells you have on the rooks, example Bio cast them in the second round. Also if you by chance have bubble or bubble belts (cant remember if they are available at that point in the game) use them.

    Knock out Rook A with a quickening first thing. This should reduce some damage. Take the next turn to silence Cid. After that use 2 two of your stronger fighters to take down the other rooks while using 1 healer to constantly heal damaged party members.

    Also if you have not been boosting you HP on the grid I highly suggest do so before you enter this fight. Another thing you might want to do before going into this fight is to catch up the levels of your other party members as Rydia recommended.

    Bio should help take down the rooks faster due to the fact that every turn will remove more HP. The rooks should not be that big of a problem if you have been obtaining better armor and the fact they only have about 1000 HP a piece.

    Hope this helps, if not we can work on a different strategy for you.
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    But i thought magick doesn't work on the rooks do to there reflect status?

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    Forgot to mention to cast Dispell on them. Also might want to think about casting reflect on cid, that way his buffs get reflected off.
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    Re: FFXII Help Thread: CAUTION - spoilers abound

    How much does sap usually take off an enemie?


    Hmm and the dispel didn't work well i just need to get my inactive party up to date

    Update:i beat Dr.cid without using any quickenings
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    I was just wondering what you guys think is the absolute minimum level to fight the bosses Tiamat and Elder Wyrm? I tried Elder Wyrm on a previous playthrough and it always kicked my butt. I think I should at least be 25.

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    Level 25 seems good but I don't think they matter so much as the equipment you use. Whyrm type enemies like Tiamat and Elder Whyrm become a lot easier to fight if you give at least two of your characters ranged weapons and spread them out around the Boss and then it's just a matter of keeping them covered with Cure. Larsa should be a big help with his Hi-Potions but I can't remember if he's with you for both of these battles. I hope this helps you as the Elder Whrm was a major pain for me.
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    A major pain indeed and I finally got past 'em!!! WOOT!!! Now I'm finally to a part of the game I haven't played before!!

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