Quote Originally Posted by Shan'do Spike View Post
You are correct: this was an incorrect call. You also fumbled two plays later.



I'm snipping the rest of this, because it's the whining I've been reading since the game ended. Two points here. Firstly, the facemask came very clearly after the fumble. Even if it had been called, it would have been the Cardinals ball, just backed up. Do you really think your defense stops the Cardinals at that point?

Secondly, let me pull the facemask definition out of the NFL rulebook for you:



The last part is the important part. Even if he grabbed the facemask (he did), incidental facemask grabbing is not a penalty unless there's some form of twist, turn, or pull, which there's no real evidence of. Watch the angle Adams comes in at: he doesn't have any sort of angle to do a twist or pull, because he's coming in at a 90 degree angle to the way Rodgers is facing. What you really want called is the incidental facemask penalty, which got removed in 2008. Now, all facemasks that are called have to be 15 yards, but touching the facemask is no longer an instant penalty.


But seriously, if you want to blame someone, try blaming your defense for not being able to cover our fourth-string receiver. Anyone who has ever played sports knows that calls even out over the course of a game, and blaming the refs is always a weak excuse.
First off, as I said in my prior post, it was an interception not a fumble the refs got that one wrong (Tuck rule). It was a tuck however Rodgers' kicked the ball and the Cardinals defensisve player caught the ball.

Two even if is not a facemask it is a Hands in the Face which is a penatly.

Thirdly, when you watch the play, you will see that Adams yanks the helmet of Rodgers. I gave you a link to the video did you not watch?

Here's another once just in case it doesn't have this angle. Packers' Rodgers worried about his mistakes, not facemask no-call

Watch and at the 1:05, and maybe at the end of 1:04, you will see Adams yanking, tugging, turning, pulling the helmet of Rodgers. Case closed.

First off, trying to say that the calls even out is not an excuse to excuse the refs. So you fail there, please learn to have rational points when debating. K. Second the calls didn't even out because Fitzgerald committed an offesive pass interference on Woodson (not called) and the Packers were called for "Roughing the passer", the refs amazingly saw that play against Warner but not two clear penalties in the span of 1-2 minutes of game time.