Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
Mass Effect is not a shooter. Come on guys. Fallout 3 is more of a shooter than Mass Effect and that's still not a shooter. Having a gun that you point at things doesn't make a game a shooter. By that logic, Valkyria Chronicles is a shooter and the Tales games are akin to Devil May Cry. Mass Effect is an action RPG.

And they still do use dice rolling. Just not a D20 inspired system. All RPGs use virtual dice rolls. That's what makes them RPGs, because they use stats and probability to determine character strength and the outcome of attacks.

Also, why is angst always used as a pejorative? How boring would a story be without some sort of angst? Angst does not always mean petty, teenage angst.
Well, then maybe by MY logic, Valkyria Chronicals is a shooter. Its just my perception. Whatev.

There's angst done well, and then angst done very badly. You can't tell me that every angsty-related storyline in a game has been interesting. Some of it gets old, really fast.

You can have (IMO) well done angst, like in Fallout 3 where it sucks that your Mom died giving birth to you, but you kind of move on. Then there's emo angst like in FFVIII's Squall. As much as I loved the game the "....." when he was asked something got very annoying.

Although the difference between ACTION RPGs *cough* ( ) and regular RPGs?