FF began to suck balls?

[Psiko]

*prepares to get flamed*

VII

Allow me to explain myself here. In my mind the Final Fantasy games can be grouped into three categories (not going to try to include XI because most people skip it anyway)

The Bad: II, X, X-2, XII

The Decent: Mystic Quest, V, VII, VIII

The Great Ones: I, III, IV, VI, IX, Tactics

I frown when I think of the Playstation era and beyond. Of course, by decent I don't mean that any of those ones are terrible games. There are many parts of all four of those that I truly cherished and enjoyed. Yet they lacked a certain...something that just didn't make me sing praise for the game. The Great Ones all define the best that an era had to offer. Square got it right with IX on the return to its roots. I understand you may disagree.

Don't begrudge me for my opinions.

And

if the word "graphics" is used as part of anyone's defense in a response to my post I will immediately STOP reading. Fair warning.

[Andromeda]

Graphics...hehe... ^^;

But seriously, visuals are certainly not an issue for me. I mean I'm still playing and enjoying PS2 RPGs while everyone is saying they're ugly now with HD. I love the sprite based PS2 RPGs that are still slowly coming out. And I plan to get around the other FF games I haven't finished, handhelds just end up tainting my experience significantly. I own all of the console versions of the games minus FFIII so that'll be chore to beat. Can't stand FFTA for two reasons, one a handheld and the law system.

Cheers for FFIX being one of your best games though. I love FFIX to death, it was also my first FF. But I do wish that they would make more true fantasy FF RPGs like that. I miss the days when fantasy was not unceremoniously merged with sci-fi. I don't really mind it all with FFVII, but I do love my fantasy and sci-fi divided neatly in two different corners.

Poor, poor FFXI getting left in the corner because its different. Don't worry I still care you about FFXI.

But you put X and X-2 in the same boat? ; ; X-2 brought back the job system from III/V/Tactics and X finally allowed you to change party members in battle. X was also far more strategic than any FF since FFT. I love active time battles, but you could plan out and arrange your party to deal with an unforeseen threat. You could judge if a move was going to waste too many of your slots putting you on the other side of a boss's attack. It has some good merits. I won't fight you on the story or characters since that comes down to a personal preference and that battle never ends. ^^; But gameplay wise FFX is a pretty solid game.

[Freya]

First off: I don't want to offend anyone here. Just my two cents.

Why the heck does everyone dislike XII? Why?!
Even if it doesn't feel like a FF (many didn't, for me) it's still a good game. It has a decent story, many nice side-quests, battles, bosses, an antagonist who's just crazy, Cid... it has everything a FF needs.
For many the story isn't that great, but you should give it a try. I didn't get the story either when I first played the game. But after ~20 hours I finally got it and then it was great. Okay, too much politics for me, but even if you skip that part, it's still a good story. It's not just Empire VS Rebels. (Besides, if anyone thinks that it is... VI and VII had the same story. And VIII kinda, too.)

FF12 was just horrible... I didn’t even bother finishing it because it just bored me.

I may be hated know but... I didn't really like FF7. Yes, 7 - SEVEN - VII! This is no typing mistake. <.<"
But you know, I played it to the end, because there still was a glimpse of hope in me that said that the game could get better. You can't just judge a game by the beginning. How far have you gotten? Did you even get the chance to understand the story? (No offense - I know you can't possibly get the whole story at the beginning. <<)

People, that's what I dislike about FF fans, really. I'm sorry, but you can't judge any FF if you haven't played it to the end. We should all know that FFs develop throughout the game. I even found FFVI quite boring in the beginning and after playing it it became my favorite.


Really sorry if it sounded offensive (I get the impression it did), but I can't stand any XII-bashing anymore...

[dapofola]

Graphics...hehe... ^^;

But seriously, visuals are certainly not an issue for me. I mean I'm still playing and enjoying PS2 RPGs while everyone is saying they're ugly now with HD. I love the sprite based PS2 RPGs that are still slowly coming out. And I plan to get around the other FF games I haven't finished, handhelds just end up tainting my experience significantly. I own all of the console versions of the games minus FFIII so that'll be chore to beat. Can't stand FFTA for two reasons, one a handheld and the law system.

Cheers for FFIX being one of your best games though. I love FFIX to death, it was also my first FF. But I do wish that they would make more true fantasy FF RPGs like that. I miss the days when fantasy was not unceremoniously merged with sci-fi. I don't really mind it all with FFVII, but I do love my fantasy and sci-fi divided neatly in two different corners.

Poor, poor FFXI getting left in the corner because its different. Don't worry I still care you about FFXI.

But you put X and X-2 in the same boat? ; ; X-2 brought back the job system from III/V/Tactics and X finally allowed you to change party members in battle. X was also far more strategic than any FF since FFT. I love active time battles, but you could plan out and arrange your party to deal with an unforeseen threat. You could judge if a move was going to waste too many of your slots putting you on the other side of a boss's attack. It has some good merits. I won't fight you on the story or characters since that comes down to a personal preference and that battle never ends. ^^; But gameplay wise FFX is a pretty solid game.

X-2 sucked. I liked the new game+ feature. But that's about it. I hated the fact that if you fought a certain boss @ lvl 16 it's HP would be maybe 1650. BUT if you fought the excact same on @ level 30 -- it would be maybe 3000 hp. In other words: you could beat the game @ level 22.

[matt]

I think that XII was amazing i loved the way they tried somink new

But you put X and X-2 in the same boat? ; ; X-2 brought back the job system from III/V/Tactics and X finally allowed you to change party members in battle. X was also far more strategic than any FF since FFT. I love active time battles, but you could plan out and arrange your party to deal with an unforeseen threat. You could judge if a move was going to waste too many of your slots putting you on the other side of a boss's attack. It has some good merits. I won't fight you on the story or characters since that comes down to a personal preference and that battle never ends. ^^; But gameplay wise FFX is a pretty solid game.

couldnt hhave said it better myself X-2 bit girly but i did like it the whole job class thing was nice, ill always have a soft spot for X and i cant wait for the remastered edition ill buy a psvita for that game alone. (When its out at least)