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    I do what you can't. A serious question regarding the FFT culture Sasquatch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeordam View Post
    Hypothetically (or not): You have children and you die tragically. Let us suppose that there are no family members or whoever else to take your kids. Are you close enough to someone through an "e-based" forum well enough that you would trust them to love and care for your children? To supply their material needs, through personal sacrifice if necessary? To give them love and attention as they would their own?
    No. Hell no. I'm sure there are people around here decent enough that they would be able to take care of my children (when I have children), don't get me wrong -- but am I going to become close enough to them and learn enough about them to trust them with that? I would have to know them on a personal level, not just through the internet.

    Now, I know that some folks have met online, here or elsewhere, and actually decided to meet up in person and have a personal relationship (romantic or otherwise). That's cool. I wouldn't discourage or frown upon that, but it's not something I've done, and as I stand now, I doubt that I would actually do that.

    ... Actually, I take that back. I did meet a girl online once, met up in person, hit it off, and dated for a while. Boy, was that a mistake. I don't think the "meeting online" really had much to do with it, but the "she's a crazy bitch" certainly did. But I doubt that could have been avoided if we had never met online and had instead met face-to-face for the first time.

    As far as me, here, I wouldn't trust anybody with my child. Nothing against the people here (well, most of them, anyway) -- I'm sure there are some decent people who are great parents, or would be if put into that situation. I just don't know them well enough.

    The same situation applies (you have children, and your untimely death). If you had to choose someone to care for your kids, the person that you choose...would you want them to teach the kids *your* values/morals/religion/faith or is it cool if the they taught your kids *their* values/morals/religion/faith? Is there a difference between the two? If so...which would you rather the kids learn?
    Yes, no, and both. If I gave my child up (willingly or not), of course I would prefer that the child learned my values and took after me. I would imagine that most people believe the same thing, unless they give their child up because they admit that they're not responsible enough to handle it.

    But the person/people I would give my child to would have similar beliefs and values to mine, so I doubt it would be an issue. As many people here know, I'm pretty conservative -- so even if I know that a gay Evolutionist tree-hugging vegan friend of mine is an outstanding parent for his/her children, I wouldn't want them raising mine because I wouldn't want those beliefs and values instilled in them. Just as, I'm sure, that friend wouldn't want me raising their children because I have beliefs that are on the opposite ends of the spectrum from theirs. When they get older, they can figure out their beliefs and values for themselves, but while young and in the home, I would want them to value the same things I value.

    And your (unquoted) remarks on tolerance vs. acceptance were right on the money.

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    #LOCKE4GOD A serious question regarding the FFT culture Alpha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    But the person/people I would give my child to would have similar beliefs and values to mine, so I doubt it would be an issue. As many people here know, I'm pretty conservative -- so even if I know that a gay Evolutionist tree-hugging vegan friend of mine is an outstanding parent for his/her children, I wouldn't want them raising mine because I wouldn't want those beliefs and values instilled in them. Just as, I'm sure, that friend wouldn't want me raising their children because I have beliefs that are on the opposite ends of the spectrum from theirs. When they get older, they can figure out their beliefs and values for themselves, but while young and in the home, I would want them to value the same things I value.
    I may be a homosexual, scientific, environmentally-aware herbivore (chuck in anarcho-feminist for good measure), but I seriously wouldn't mind who raised my (future) children. On ONE condition, and that is they are raised to treat everybody equally, and that they are given the freedom to choose their own additional values. Chances are, the person would be my (real-life) friend, and would largely share my views, so the chances of my children being raised as a homophobic, creationist, environmentally-disdainful, carnivorous sexist are practically nil. But if they did, then that would be their choice. I would hope my friend wouldn't place their own values on my children (to the extent that this would be possible), but I myself wouldn't force my children to accept my views. I assume a lot would rub off, but I wouldn't do it consciously. Let them reach their own conclusions I say! Worked for me: my dad could be a bit more tolerant of homosexuals, but I don't share his view on that to anything near that (limited) extent.

    But an online friend? That would never happen. There would be hundreds of better alternatives than a semi-stranger.

    I can accept other's views. I live on that premise. And I can also accept them in my own children as long as they are willing and able to convincingly justify them and aren't standing by and not questioning their assumptions. Simply: I don't need my children to agree with me.

    Naturally, when I have children this will all change. Smeh. I'm young and idealistic.
    Last edited by Alpha; 09-10-2009 at 11:11 PM.


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