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    Re: God/Religion. Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
    Religion is interpreted by many different people as many different things. Theres no solid ground for establishing what exactly one should believe or do and religious communities will always disagree to some extent on how one should worship a god and live their lives. Keeping in mind there are hundreds of different religions, how can you be sure yours is even the more 'correct' one? You cannot, but you will blindy follow it anyway and just have faith for the best. This is on the same grounds as someone who has a life threatening ilness and you have faith they will just get better by themselves without treatment. Science could save their life.
    I personally only believe in the Abrahamic religions to be the true ones.

    Why only Abrahamic ones?
    They all share the same belief in one Creator and stress the same values. Distortion is another matter to discuss. There are other man-made religions or tribal beliefs that are more like organisations to me. Although I would encourage all values that encourage goodness and love, but I see no reason to trust them or treat them as divine.

    Why Islam?
    My belief in it greatly relies on the logic behind religion itself. I explained this earlier saying that religion is the way God communicates to mankind through messengers, because they cannot reach absolute truths by themselves. Islam completes Christianity and Judaism and corrects what people have changed in it (we can discuss this point). Muslims believe in both Christianity and Judaism, in Moses and Jesus, in the Torah and Gospels, but both Christians and Jews don't believe in what came after, no Muhammed, no Quran, and until now I cannot understand why, Islam offers most of the same values and clearly came from the same place.

    Also, it is stupid if any religious person only prays to God in sickness, but does not seek scientific medicine. It is also stupid to pray for help and sit at home without working for what you want. I believe in combining both. As for the discussion between your co-workers; this is rather a complex matter, in a way "it was their time" but not entirely; concepts like fate and time are only relative and they are subject for change. If you eat healthy and adopt a healthy lifestyle; your time will "increase" but it will also be "your time", same goes for the opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Use your logic to strip away their gods, and you have done more than removed cosmogeny, but a system of society.
    I agree with your statement. It is more difficult for me to argue with Christians than to argue with agnostics or atheists because of this reality. Although it is easier for the later to hide in a corner of uncertainty where I cannot reach, but it's not the case for the first (I mean no disrespect =)

    I never tear down people's religious beliefs, I am only interested in "sending a message" of my beliefs through my actions mostly, and through words when asked only, because many people start itching when hearing the word "religion".


    Also, about the agnostic/atheist subject, based on all the discussion so far I will have to agree with Heartless Angel on the definitions. Simply because my first question when I have a discussion with an atheist is: give me a proof.
    Last edited by Elise; 09-19-2011 at 06:43 PM.

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