Ralz
I feel epic...

Well, your not alone pulling all-nighters, it happens for me usually as well, but Alther is mostly busy spriting for his project, so its going to be pretty difficult, to have him, available to this project for the moment. Besides all this what happens, i keep having really weird dreams, i question how im even getting those, and this one, definitely takes the cake, for being... the most "dirty" dream, i've ever had... And im not going to get in detail, because that would be awkward.

I can only just say...

Nihildeunum is a seductive furry/dragon chick with purple boobs... Nuff said'.

Besides all that, i've also thought out how some other characters appearances should be, and some possible extra names, we can use in the Sequel.

PS: Despite it being a dirty dream, i liked it, now you are welcome to call me a horndog.

Whelp, appearantly, we're stuck again, but hey, looking through the Internet again, and i think i found a few other names we could use for our project.

Done with three of them, now you can go tell me that I have bad character design LOL (Its a weakness of mine )

Yo, all three of us Chaosthrians are active, Elyon wants us to make the Design Discussion thread.

Alther, reporting for any spriting pertaining to CoC!

Sleeping on the work again are ya? xD

So, there is absolutely nothing fancy goin' about there? Im bored as hell.

Sup Ralz, being quite awhile since last time, how is it?

Ralz, i've dreamt yet another vision.

Dreamt of the game again, as me Elyon... It took place in what seemed to be some Catacombs, it was dark, so it has hard to see, i tried stretching out for light sources but i couldn't find anything, so i had to align my eyes to the dark to get a idea on where i went, it took awhile, and the place had a creepy ambiance and it had a pungent stench of death and decay, looking for a way out, the air got thicker, and the place creepier, but what was absolutely most terrifying was that i heard something i couldn't really see what it were... I only got a brief moment on what it was, and it seemed like it was circling around me, giving off a very unsettling feeling...

I dont exactly know what it was... But it sounded like someone was crying, except... in a very demonic way, it passed quickly before me, this brief moment i saw it, it was bleeding and it had black wings... i got freaked out, but didn't scream for a reaction... And it disappeared as soon as it appeared, left no traces or anything... But, this gave me inspiration of a new kind of enemy, and while i know the idea is already taken, but to me... it was like a combination of; "Weeping Angels", and "Malphas". As it continuously echo'd in my ears back then... Maybe we can make something from these?

Continuing the journey inside the Catacombs, the place got slightly brighter, when i finally seemed to meet a armor-clad zombie... But this wasn't any kind of it, it was talking to me... But i couldn't exactly tell what it was saying, except for the words...

"Save me..."
"Repentance..."
"Are you here... to deliver salvation?"

Apparently, it was some sort of person, who've lost his/her mind waiting for someone to rescue it, it still had some sanity left, but not much of it, and apparently, it got provoked at my appearance here, and as excepted, the RPG battle started... apparently it was a paladin, or some sort of fighter, on how it fought, it wasn't strong or anything, and it even attempts to heal itself, despite that its a zombie, in disbelief that its living... After defeating it, it regained its senses and answered before disappearing in a flash of light; "Thank... you...".

I didn't dream much after this event, because of some bug who got in my room somehow, and woke me up by being a continuous annoyance making; "Brrrrzzzz" sounds... I hate bugs, despite what it is, if it was a fly or mosquito, it's fine, but i couldn't tell what it was, so i raised my guards on whatever it was...

Anyway Ralz, i thought i'd mention this, as it was all in my dream i've had today/yesterday, as i immediately typed this message to you, when i waked up from bed, after having taken some milk, because i was thirsty, you might be able to take and make something useful with what i've dreamt for the game itself, make sure to let me know, if there is anything you need to know.

Peace out.

I've known that, but i just tend to forget about it all the time, i just prefers everything in seperate categories.

Yeah, Recovery skills can heal critical damage, recovering more HP, they pretty much have the same chance as regular physical attacks, however... We need to find a term, to use as Critical, i mean... When the word pop ups says; "Critical" when you heal, it sounds so out of place, it just doesnt work in my opinion, therefor, in the Demo, its just called; "Lucky" instead for Critical Hits, both for Physical Skills and Healing ones, but i need to fix the scripts, as they are kind of bugged, once i get the time.

Hmm, well, as for the names, i dont have really anything i can say, except for the names of my earlier games i cancelled, you know... Alexander's, Felicia's, Nina's and Shin's games? Yeah... I remember all their projects names actually which i gave them, They didnt just appear in one project, they appeared in several ones i attempted, all who got discarded, you might be able to make something from it.

-Alexander-
Adventures of a Lifetime
Castle of Illumination

-Felicia-
Shinobi Village

-Nina-
A Princess in Distress
Castle of Illumination

-Shin-
Upgraded Alpha IV
The Antique Machine Army

That's all the names of the projects i've had with them... Dunno if it helps, but i'll list them there anyway.

Yeah, i'll definitely hope people will like it, hopefully, a sequel will be made as well, and usually by then, things are either easier, or harder than before, depending on the circumstances, anyway, sure about that document, try and sort each in different categories, in other words, each section, in a different document. And nope, im not sadistic... Atleast i hope im not, but i try to be positive and true to logics, facts, possibilities... But mostly of the time, im persistant, despite things going against me. So yep.

PS: You posted in your own Profile, again!

Have you ever tried Ctrl + F? You can use it to track down whatever you input. So "Weapon" will instantly warp you around the document until you find the appropriate word. I will take your words into consideration and put a kind of index on what to find in the document. Then, you could use that to zoom to the desired section. Admittedly, there is still much to do with this list.

What a critical error! (I'll punch myself later. >.>) But I have to ask... recovery skills can critical? Like... more healing...? Oh, right. Do spells critical as well? I've been wondering for a while, now. And if so, should we split the critical rate amongst physical and magical? Or just leave it as is?

That's the idea, it seems.

Chaosthroph is an important place for the plot, but the main game takes place on Aesilel. In fact, Chaosthroph doesn't show up until Chapter 6, and loses importance immediately after. In addition, none of the characters are really aware of it's existence until they're about to go there. There's no legend about it. As for a new name... I'm not sure. Something that relates to whatever the theme of the game is. And I'm not sure what that is... Perhaps defying fate's route, as Dimitri assumes it's the world's destiny to disappear, while Elyon tells fate to screw itself. But that's just one theme I have so far. I also consider the other characters as well. In the end, I'm just not sure what a suitable replacement will be, so for now, I'll just go on calling it Chaosthroph.

I mainly think it'll be one of those games people say "huh, neat" to. Then they play it, and find it enjoyable. Not sure how they'll react to the story, but the gameplay can cover it, I think. And I'm definitely doing it, not just for your sake or mine, but for the sake of the dream you started. I shall resume with this FD and get back to you when I hit another wall.

Sure thing... uh, bro!

I just assumed you were a sadist, like me. (Need we forget Remnant Dimitri's Chaotic state?)

Ooooh... I've being seeing this list, it is huuuuuge, and i like it, most things actually... It just misses a slight few details, but i can probably take care of these, but you've pretty much covered up everything we need to know about, Items, Plot, Specials, everything of it. Must have taken quite a bit of time to finish it, though... I'd like to note, that its easier to find among these stuffs, if each paragraph were in seperate documents, So... when im working and thinking; "Oh where's the movelist? Oh in this document... oh dangit not there, oh jesus christ im going to be scrolling down in ages now."

But i can probably seperate the documents in different parts, whenever i get the time. I'll also cover up, giving the characters a few more Skills to work with, but yeah, considering the demo, the characters are awfully diversed, but that was when i was quite janky in working, it isnt easy managing a database as it seems, especially for a large serious project like this.

I can probably fix you the Demo, though, its very buggy, and some features i've added isnt getting applied, Skills and Healing cannot deal Critical Damage anymore, for some reason, i think that script got overwrited by something... Anyway, when i'll start using RPG Maker VX Ace, the new one, i'll make sure to try and start over with the scripts, gather whatever necessary ones i can, that is important, and see if i can find more ones.

Though, its going slow right now, because we're lacking the grafics around the game, but we're getting finished in the Side-matter importance, such as Items, Skills, Traits and all that, you have yet to come up with a list of finished Synthesized Weapons however, but i'll trust your judgment, and im going to stick with Sideways Battles, because they are too fancy than Frontal Ones, besides, its kind of Cute-sy/Badass seeing those small sprites swing weapons against monsters. xD

Once we can get the standard sprites for the Main Initial Party Set-Up, i can start making test demos again, we'd need a finished sprite set of, Elyon, Ralz, Meigumi and Alther to have a party to work on... Meigumi has already finished Alther's Field Sprites, but the rest are lacking, hate to put much work here, but i dont know of anyone else who can do this. This project sure is tough, but im sure, that whenever it'll be done, it'll show of some pretty satisfying results, and you'll have a nice game to "brag" about.

Oh yes, we still need to upgrade the Game's Title Name, Legendary City of Chaosthroph just doesnt make sense, or cut anylonger, we need a new working one, thats something to consider thinking about for awhile. If you got any ideas, then feel free to share them!

"Oh, look at this cool game i found!"
"What is it?"
"This game is called; "xxxxx/(Something we haven't thought of yet)", and its really cool!"
"Oh, did you know i was part of the team that made it?"
"What, Really? Your lying, right?"
"Nah mate, i worked with this guy on the internet to finish off this game, told me i could brag about it when it got finished! Im pretty satisfied myself with it, we're possibly going to work on a sequel to it as well!"
"That's awesome! Can i be a part of the team?"
"If you are good at anything special, then maybe you can!"

I can consider that this game we'll be a good game, to gift someone you fancy, like a present of some sort, since it'll be free. But if anything, i might just try to get this game on a disk, just for fun sakes! But lets finish this game! Do it for the fun! Do it for... our boredoms sakes! I dont even know! But we'll finish this game, with great results, as long we work together, and put our minds to it!

Peace out bro!

EDIT: Awww man... i had forgotten how dreadfully hard the bosses i created where... I must have being crazy back then! Good thing that im a master tactician!

Im not sure on how many effects can be putted on a weapon, quite a bunch actually, usually stat boosts, either specific ones, or by percentage, possibly Perma-Status Effects to them as well, though, i downloaded the RTP once more, and actually decided to play through the old Game Demo, and its pretty fun from how i remember it, slightly janky, and there's a new version that goes of the name of RPG Maker VX Ace, which i'll probably switch too, however... i dont know if the Scripts i use are compatable, however, im slightly thinking on changing a few perspectives possibly...

There could be a chance, that i'll switch from a Side-ways battle system, to a Frontal one instead, without general character grafics, though... chances are low for that, but it makes scripting alot less problematic, again... chances are i'll stick to side-ways... I also need to try and rewamp and fix the scripts to make them less buggy, but i haven't used the in-game systems to change scripts or anything in ages, so its garantued that i have forgotten almost everything, so... I'll just gather whatever i can, and do the best with it i can do.

RPG Maker VX Ace is techniquely the same as regular VX, except with a highly improved database, you can create your own characters as well, though... it quite gives you an alright freedom to it, its still extremely inferior to custom sprite-making, which we would have needed Meigumi so much here right now... and believe me, i've tried finding other people, but i cannot find anyone, either they'll find me, or Meigumi has to come back, possibly, Alther will have to help work in this, as he has some knowledge about it.

Ralz, im confident we'll eventually finish this project, and possibly a sequel, but in this rate, it'll go snail-speed for here, we really need to shake them alive again somehow, also, hopefully, your story for the game is good, and understandable, and i keep day-dreaming about a remake of this game, in 3D form, i've dreamt it too, its so badass.

Anyway Ralz... You are posting your own messages in your own profile by mistake, post them on mine, by clicking my name, or send a PM if its to problematic, peace and out bro!

I'm working on my Final Document I mentioned before. I will admit that I keep forgetting to go back to it every now and then. I'll finish my ideas for tonight and send you what I have so far.

And about Meigumi... I also have to admit I have no convenient way to get in contact with her. In fact, we haven't spoken in some time.

The way things are looking now, I seriously recommend finding someone else who may be able to fulfill the role. Or, in the worst-case scenario, use in-game spirtes. I am sorry for failing to provide in this respect.

Well, nothing much. I seem to be thinking about this project all the time lately. I think the synthesis system is okay as it is. I have a good number of fusion materials such as Fire Gems and Moonstones. There are also enemy-specific drops that would probably be used for Enemy Advantage fusions. Of course, the more powerful the effect, the harder it is to get. But my main question is, how many effects can be applied to a weapon? 4? 8? 20? There should be a limit, and it could be interesting. Although, there should also be a better way to show what effects are in place other than the description. Maybe there's a seperate menu...

I'll address my concerns for you in the FD. Which I will send to you after proof-reading. Probably.

Well, so much time has passed since last time... But nothing has really happened, and im not talking about your part, im saying about mine, and the others, as we are literally not going anywhere now... Meigumi really need to finish all the sprites, infact... She's a long way from being finished, and i respect that she's perhaps busy, with life, school and so on, they're much more important than this, but we are just not going anywhere now, atleast... Ask her to work on it, small steps by steps.

Anyway, whats up? :3