Seven Sins: Lust

[Draken Benvolaid]

This is the second of the 8 separate threads, one once a month for 7 months and a final one on how they affect each other. That is from July to February.

As the thread title says, they will be on the Seven Sins: Pride, Lust, Wrath, Greed, Gluttony, Envy, Sloth.

Each needs to be discussed as separate things, not as a whole. Each is distinctly different from the others, even if they sometimes touch other sins. I would do all of them at once, but it would probably have far too many words in them for just one sitting to read.

Although I have my own answers to these, I'd like to have the responses of others and compare them with my own first. So, I will post my own responses, later on.


(All Posters, Please note: I don't want to here Flamebaiting Baiting here, take that elsewhere. No matter who does it, I'm sick of it, everywhere. You can respond to the posts of others, but meaningless crap about their words or themselves, no, not here.)



In your first posts or individual responses, please answer these questions:

What do you consider "Lust"?

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?

Is it necessary for an individual?

Is it necessary for the world?

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?

Is there an overabundant of it in society?

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?

What is the final extent of it in a single person?

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?

[raging drunk lad]

What do you consider "Lust"?
I think I'd prefer to think of lust as being the conflict between the indoctrinated notion of celibacy or sexual restraint conflicting with our natural desire to procreate or to simply induldge in carnal pleasure.

It can be a vice, yes, if unchecked.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?
Yes. Good because lust is desire, and it is desire that drives a person to connection. I guess that statement means more if you subscribe to the idea that there is no such thing as love at first sight as much as lust at first sight. It can be bad because desire can blind us, overriding our reason. But that's a personal fault.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?
Depends on if it's lust or love, really. But if we're dropping labels here, it can damage a person irreversibly. If he or she does not move on. If a person obsesses, if a person is addicted to his or her lust for a person (or thing. or animal) then it can destroy, certainly. Postively, a person who realises what his or her feelings are, truly, then that may be a source of some sort of enlightment or introspection. Depends.

Is it necessary for an individual?
Could be. I'm not going to say clearly yes or no to that, because I believe in some cases, yes, in some cases, no. Some people need that lust as an indicator to make a move--shallow as that sounds. Some people don't need lust to become attracted to another person, that is to say attraction and appreciation is something that builds over time.

Is it necessary for the world?
I do declare that it used to make the world go 'round, back in the day.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?
Hormones.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?
Hard to say. It's certainly not in deficiency. What's too much lust, though, eh? Rape gangs? Sprawling stretches of bordellos?

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
If it's just physical lust, then... Well, there goes the porn industry. How will it affect us on an individual level? Well, I suppose that would change the standard by which people would form marital unions. By removing lust, do you remove passion and desire for your partner?

What is the final extent of it in a single person?
That depends on willpower, self-consciousness and objectivity. Lust can be meaningless (or at worst, sinful). Lust can dominate a person's life. So really, those seem to be the two poles and anyone may fall in between.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?
I don't think it's possible to quantify an entire society's measure of lust. Especially when a society encompasses so many small, intricate pieces and orientations. If you consider it to be a single unit, then it's all just masturbation in the end.



/wishwashy

[You]

What do you consider "Lust"?
An unparralled desire for someone or perhaps something. So much so that it can take over ones life.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?
Both. There can be healthy lust. And not so healthy lust, also known as stalking etc.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?
I think that if not careful and its of the bad persuasion it can lead to the disruption of ones life and normal activities, perhaps stalker, and maybe even further.

Is it necessary for an individual?
It is not neccessarily required. But someone lusting is just someone human. It can happen to everyone.

Is it necessary for the world?
See above.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?
Its a strong emotion. When peoples emotions flare up they fail to see reason and whats right in front of them. They can become uncontrollable and take things too far and to heart without realising it themselves.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?
Personally I dont think so. A bit of lust could be healthy and a nice release from stress and reality.

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
The world would be a much more boring place. Personal lust doesnt effect anyone unless its taken too far.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?
There are good and bad points to this. It could give someone courage, love, happiness among other things. It can also provide someone with despair, outcast, embarrassment and potentially jail time amongst other things.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?
Love, marriage, birth, death, crime, pleasure, others of the 7 deadly sins, hate, loathing and friendship. Amongst other things of course

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
If it's just physical lust, then... Well, there goes the porn industry.

Quoted for awesomeness.

[Pete]

What do you consider "Lust"?

I consider lust to be feelings of desire, with little to no emotional attachment. There's a clear difference between liking someone and wanting to just have sex with someone. The latter is what I would say is just lust. However, randomly having sex with someone is not always an act of lust, as there is yet another difference between convenience and want, and actual desire. Example: If a hot girl wanted to have sex with me, there's a chance I'd be down. Yet, there's a girl at my gym who's an absolute 10. I don't know anything about her, but oh man, when I see her, I just think about what it'd be like to get intimate.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?

I think it's only bad if something comes out of it that leads to others getting hurt. Lust can sometimes lead to rape, and clearly that's a terrible thing. It can also lead to people using others, just to have sex with them once or twice, just to see if it was really what they wanted. All in all, I can't say that lust really leads to anything fruitful, because ultimately, a relationship cannot be sustained by sex alone. It can be for a little while, but there should be something to base a relationship off of before you hop in the sack.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?

See above. I don't think anything can really come from lust and be sustained for a prolonged period of time.

Is it necessary for an individual?

Of course it's necessary. It's a human feeling. Every now and then, you'll come across someone who just strikes you in that way, and you wind up with the desire to see how they look sans clothes. I don't think it's necessary to ever act upon it alone. I also think that it's human nature to desire people in that manner; it's biology. You can't help being attracted to what you are.

Is it necessary for the world?

Well, lust in itself can lead to liking a person, if indeed a conversation is stricken up, but lust for the sole purpose of a good old fashioned boot knockin, I'd have to say no. Sex is almost always better with someone you love, cause of the connection and all that romantic shit. Sex is great on its own too, but it leaves you empty inside (no pun intended) when it's not with someone you actually care about.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?

It's something to do. Sex is all over society; girls and guys both are supposed to look certain ways and do certain things in order to attract. Walk into an Abercrombie and look at the posters. Read a Cosmo. It's what you're "supposed" to do.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?

See above

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?


We'd be Amish. All joking aside, I don't know what it'd be like because I'm so used to it being around me. I suppose the world would be better. No cosmo, no girls trying to whore themselves up, no d-bag guys at the bars trying to act like god. No Abercrombie bs. I would love it.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?

Depends on the person and how they let it affect them. Personally, I'll admit that I've given in to lust before, and almost every time, it just led to drama or someone getting upset at the end of everything. It's ultimately a lot easier and better to know someone for a while and just start a relationship that way, and make sure that you have both worlds, instead of just sex for the sake of a hot partner.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?

I don't think that it leads to anything really terrible for society. Lust has always been around, only today they're showing more skin and make lust into something much more. The desire for sex has always been there, nowadays it's more acceptable to talk about it and to advertise it. I feel like that's the major thing.

[Che]

This might be very Freudian of me, but I believe lust is the instinct we were given as humans to want a member of the opposite sex in order to eventually mate with them. If you've been in lust, that's all it really is. Girls I've talked to have the same feeling, its all about making out or trying to get with the other person physically, not emotionally.

If no one wanted to mate with each other we would always at least have lust to fall back on to keep our human race going.

Trying to explain it in society is just ignoring the fact that we are an animal.

[Mr Spike]

What do you consider "Lust"?

In a definition, a strong sexual attraction to someone, not necessarily of the opposite sex.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?

Entirely dependent on the situation. One extreme effect would be rape, or an unwanted pregnancy leading to abortion. Also, lusting after someone for a long period of time could be interpreted as stalking or being obsessive.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?

Lust could have very long lasting repercussions. A one night stand, for example, could lead to an unwanted child, the pain of an abortion, or possible financial troubles many years in the future.

With regards to a relationship, lust is not the foundations on which a strong and lasting relationship is built. These kind of relationships last but months, perhaps a little bit longer.

Is it necessary for an individual?

Lust is needed within everyone, if managed to be kept in check. However lust is an emotion and emotions are very hard to keep under control. Someone who feels lust may be shallow and only judging someone on their looks, not what really matters. Whereas someone who chooses to love - rather than lust - will possibly see someone for who they really are. Although it really is down to personal opinion.

Is it necessary for the world?

Not really, no. Emotions like this can lead to people getting hurt, so therefore to look at this in the wider context, it could only be for the better.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?

Who knows? Once again, everyone is different and interpret things differently. Perhaps one person will take it to heart because they want to feel wanted by someone, another person may like the feeling that someone finds them sexually attractive, someone else may like the thrill of the chase.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?

Very much. Look through any fashion magazine and the models are all dressed to provoke. It catches the eye and sells more.

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?

If any emotion was taken out of the world, then it would become more boring, and this is no exception. Although some emotions may be bad they do overall add to the world.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?

There are two sides to this coin. Although it may give someone happiness for having someone to look out for in their life, it may also give them feelings of depression, feelings of inadequacy, sadness.... On the other hand it could also make them happy, give them confidence, self-awareness....

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?

A lot more advertising, that's for sure. Among other things such as crime, abortion, teenage pregnancy, marriage.

[Furore]

What do you consider "Lust"?

I would consider lust a hardcore craving for self gratification. Sex isn't the only thing a person can lust for. For some it's power, others chocolate, for some it's games, different people may desire different things.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?

It can be either. It can give some people the drive they need to achieve something, but it can also be the inspiration for several acts of malice.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?

The sky's the limit. Some people are fanatical in their lust, others barely show much lust at all. Regardless, there is a lot of lust in the world, and it effects the world for better and for worse.

Is it necessary for an individual?

Well it would be pretty bad if there was no lust for the individual's partner. Especially if as a pair they wanted kids. I'd think it'd really depend on the individual in question. But regardless of necessity, most people do lust for something. For some it's a women, for others chocolate, for that fat guy who rarely leaves the television it could be beer and the television shows themselves that he lusts for.

Is it necessary for the world?

I'd say yes. Especially in terms of of how lust can serve to motivate at times. Even if it's not necessary for the world, without it I strongly doubt the world would be as it is today. A strong lust for power is not always something that can be taken lightly.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?

I believe it's something present in most if not all people. Most people I've met have lusted for something quite visibly. I often see it associated with a person's aspirations, their dreams and desires.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?

I think there's an over-abundance in some individuals, but as a whole, I'd think that it was well enough balanced. I say well enough, as things seem to work for the better part... Usually...

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?

It'd be a greatly different place. Hell, even animals feel lust, and without it, many might die out from lack of reproductive acts. I cannot honestly say what would happen, but I feel it'd be something both big and pretty grim.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?

Really does depend on the person. As some people say, there are some ruled by their penis. It doesn't mean their penis has grown a mind with some kind of authoritative consciousness. It means the man in question holds a lot of lust for sexual activity of some kind. There's also supposed 'Chocolate Addicts' and tyrants who have gotten the power they have lusted so long for and ended up abusing it completely. Lust can screw with some people. But in the end it's only some people. Not all of them.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?

All you have to do to answer this one is to just take a look around. Lust is present almost (if not) everywhere people are present.. It's just that a lot of it is more rarely identified by some people. Lust has it's uses, but then also causes a lot of strife. It really depends on a specific case in question...

[Govinda]

Lust is one of my favourite things. Nothing sets the mood quite like it.

There's nothing wrong with it unless it's directed at children, animals, or people who decidedly do not want your parts to go near theirs.

A series. In ID. Christ.

[Sharzademar]

What do you consider "Lust"?

A strong, undying obsession and desire for something that fulfills your most basest urges. It is often used to describe sexual desires, but can be anything that drives a person into an animal-like state in search of fulfilling those urges.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?

The ways in which lust is bad is obvious. Sexual obsession leads to acts such as public exhibition, stalking, and rape. It can also cause a person to be overweight if they lust after food, or murder if a person lusts after giving pain. Lust causes people to gratify themselves (interpret that however you like), which can be good since it fulfills a desire and causes no harm. Mutual lust in a couple could bring spark into a relationship. Lust, like most everything, is good or bad, depending on the person who is lusting.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?

Lust can cause early pregnancies, which makes post-secondary education nearly impossible. Lust can result in weight gain, increasing the risk for a heart attack. A rape victim is emotionally, and possibly physically scarred. On the positive side, if you lust after someone you also love, a child (who you are ready for) could be born.

Is it necessary for an individual?

Lust, although described as a sin, is a part of every individual. A person has primitive desires for food, sex, power, and many other things. Food and sex are both necessary parts of a person's life, and the lust for them saves us from dying of starvation or not procreating.

Is it necessary for the world?

Once again, without lust, the human race would become apathetic and eventually die off from starvation, lack of procreation, and anarchy. Even necessities have darker sides. Lust is shunned despite its overwhelming influence on our lives.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?

It's coded in our DNA, go after what we want. It's like the 40-Year Old Virgin: "Something in the lion's code says, 'Tackle the gazelle.' We have that code too, only it's 'Tackle drunk chicks.'" While the drunk chicks part isn't that intelligent, the writer may have unintentionally stumbled upon a great truth. It's human nature to go after what we desire, and the rules of society sometimes conflicts with this.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?

Of course. A lust for both sex and power led an Austrian man to imprison his daughter, create seven children, and father three of them. Countless wars were struggles for power. McDonald's causes a massive amount of obesity.

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?

Then the human race would die out. Or reproduction would become cold and mechanical. Even the Amish have lust, because they still exist, and they don't have any mechanics to make reproduction mechanical. They just suppress lust.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?

It could drive a person to their ultimate goal, or to their untimely death.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?

Modern culture. People view shows that focus on lust as witty and sophisticated, yet it involves the most basic human desires. It is an important part of life, yet some people hold it in too high regard. People use lust and love interchangeably, in both sex and chocolate! (I love you, baby -or- I love you, Hershey!)

[chocozilla]

What do you consider "Lust"?
A desperate want of something.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?
It can be good in small doses.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?
Too much of anything is bad for you, too much water will drown you and too much fun will bore you.

Is it necessary for an individual?
Yes, because otherwise we wouldnt do anything on a whim.

Is it necessary for the world?
Yes, same reason as above.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?
I never knew they did.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?
Well all want everything.

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
We'll be a depressive world.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?
Boredom.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?
Boredom and depression.

[Hyzenthlay]

What do you consider "Lust"?
Well the first thing that comes to mind is obviously sex but Lust is far more than that.
Lust is an intense desire for something almost a need or craving. Mainly as a tool for ourselves to succeed be that sexually (to reproduce or for self gratification) or generally in life.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?
It can be good, if you manage to get that thing you lust for then a person will be happy. Then again too much lust can be unhealthy and would probably lead to things such as rape, murder etc... I actually believe Lust is the cause of alot of the other sins...

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?
I just explained that, but I'll say again, I think it can lead to unhealthy obsessions and maybe even madness. A lust for power can be particulaly devestating for a person, I'd imagine.

Is it necessary for an individual?
In small doses yes. It can push us to our potential.

Is it necessary for the world?
I believe so yes, for the same reasons as above stated. In teh case of teh world I think It could have lead to some of the great things we have today such as food, inventions, drinks...* These sorts of things come from people having a lust for power and/or money or just to simply better themselves or make the world a better place.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?
It's teh way we are programmed as human beings.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?
An over abundancy?.. I wouldnt say so, no. I'd say that it is quite a balanced thing as far as these 'sins' go.

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
I think the world would look and be alot different, in many ways. For instance I don't think that the USA would exist, or indeed the UK. If Lust for power were not involved coupled perhaps with greed then people would not have invaded and shaped these places into what they are today.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?
It could lead a person to what they truly want, or lead them to something that will eventually destroy who they are. Depending on what they are Lusting for.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?
I think the world today shows us what effect it has had as I've said about 4 times before this.

*By food and drink I dont mean water and grass... I mean chocolate and coca cola and such. Things that have been created.

[Lilium]

What do you consider "Lust"?
Lust is the wanting to have sexual relations with another person, basically. It can be more complicated than that, but then I'd have to type more, and it'd involve a taboo or two that I'm not sure are allowed to be discussed here.

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?
There is no single time for Lust. If you lust for someone, then you will want to do things sexually with said person, and it will be a lot more than one time that these ideas pop into your mind. Lust can be good, when placed into context. If you lust after your girlfriend, then it's okay. If you lust after someone that you like, then it's okay. If your lust goes to the extremes or leads to actions that are bad, then it is not okay.
Lust basically is our sexual drive in action. If it weren't for lust, then people wouldn't be having as much sex, which would mean that there wouldn't be as many people in the world as there are now, and a decrease in births might not be the best thing to happen to mankind.
Lust is a natural occurring phenomenon. The only reason that it is considered a sin though, is because that lust has it's downsides and can lead to ideas that shouldn't be put into action.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?
It can go to the darkest realms of your mind. Lust can take over and control you. It can have it's long-term damages, as well. Especially if you are married. It's a little bit difficult for me to explain the long-term affects of lust, since I'm not very good at explaining, so I'll just leave it at that for now.

Is it necessary for an individual?
Lust is also interconnected with Love (believe it or not, it is), so I would have to say yes. If you love someone (i.e. a girlfriend or friend who happens to be a girl that you like), then it's perfectly natural to lust for them. After all, you want to show them how much you love them, as well as embrace them.

Is it necessary for the world?
Yes, it is. As I said before, if it weren't for lust, then the growth of the human race wouldn't have gotten this massive. Sure, 6 billion might seem like a little much to some people, but just think about if some of those people weren't born.

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?
Because of people's libidos. Women, overall, view sex as a way to show your love for someone, and after the first few times of showing that, then it just becomes a fun activity for you and your partner to use to help explore and understand each other's bodies. Men also view it as such, but are more into the pleasurable side of sex. People take it so much to heart because of two reasons:

1. The pleasure that comes with it
2. The meaning of it

Now, I only talked about the sex side of lust, because if you go into pornography or lusting after someone, then it becomes more complicated, and I honestly couldn't even begin to start to think about how that would work out.

Is there an overabundant of it in society?
Very much so. Porn, next to Myspace, is the largest industry in the world (or in the U.S., but whatever). I think that talks for itself. Not to say that it's always a bad thing, though. But that's for another discussion. Possibly one on adolescence or something of the sort.

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
Then there probably wouldn't be as much rape or the like. The number of people would probably not be 6 billion, though.

What is the final extent of it in a single person?
There is no final extent of it in a single person. I mean, rock bottom is, but overall, lust is a continuous cycle. It can go both ways I guess. I don't know.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?
Society hasn't reached that stage of the affects of lust yet, so I can't really say for sure. I mean, the internet isn't even 20 years old yet. Even though it's grown so much so fast over the years, teen porn stars and such are only just now starting to pop up (since 2000).


Because Lust is interconnected to sex, which is directly connected to reproduction, then, even if it does have it's downsides, it's completely natural and a good thing.

Now, I only covered the heterosexual side of lust, but if I were to discuss the homosexual side of lust, then it would be much more difficult, because reproduction doesn't come into the mix.

If I didn't make too much sense of things in this, it was because the questions were more deep than I've ever thought of, or I just didn't know how to explain them. Also, since lust can be put into the form of obsession, pornography, sex, rape, etc. etc. etc., it's a little more difficult to explain all of them in each topic, so I just explained maybe one or two of them in each topic.

[Dan558]

What do you consider "Lust"?
A beast-like urge or simple-minded way of craving self gratification. In todays society mostly sex with money being in second (although I wouldn't even say its close)

In a single time frame or sequence, can it be good or bad?
In a single time frame it IMO can be disastrous as it leads to foolish decisions and awful consequences. When considered in a sequence though it may lead to decent things like love but only if it isn't so overpowering it results in immediate action without thinking.

Where do you think it can go and affect over a lifetime?
As I said before it can lead to great things such as love if physical gratification isn't the only thing considered but sadly it seems to drive the world negatively as it is used and abused for such things as shallow one night stands and a meaningless life or it can steer our life through other means as TV ads and shows throw it in our face to influence decions from groceries to lifestyles.

Is it necessary for an individual?
Hard to say, for unique love probably not past the initial infatuation that gets to one to experience morte from thier significant other. Anything else is just bad for the individual such as the materialistic shallow lifestyle listed above.

Is it necessary for the world?
Only a little bit for initial or eventual love... but not necessarily essential

Why do you think people take it so much to heart?
Because it gives people with no genuine thoughts or sense of self an excuse to do all the stupid things like cheating or buying some ridiculous item or choosing a potenially stupid lifepath. People like to think of no consequences and lust sadly doesn't give serious enough consequences for its influences (For example a monogamous couple will contact a dangerous STD through some other means unrelated to sex yet a lowlife becomes blissfully happy sleeping with many flosie partners and never contracts a disease!?!)

Is there an overabundant of it in society?
Yes its completely unavoidable, in ads, TV shows, movies, Books, Schools etc. Its become so overbearing that somehow people have become numb to it and don't regard it with the respect it deserves leading to such things as IMO higher divorce rates, depression and agression

What if it was not found within or removed from the world?
The world would loose some things but if society progresses the way it is then it may be a far better option to remove it as it'll further affect things like eventually leaders will be more openly chosen on looks or handouts and such and people won't care because it'll be the norm but essentially wrong!

What is the final extent of it in a single person?
Sadly as i said before not large enough! Teens are getting pregnant in school and instead of them (both parents) being shunned or dealing with any additional consequences people pity them as if it wasn't their fault (Don't jump on me because of rape (another problem of lust) because that is not what I'm talking about here and is still in the minority of teen pregnancies). Instead measures go to "safe sex" and stuff instead of NO SEX in high school, its just idiotic how it works! So since there seems to be a lack of severe consequences on the individual it keeps happening.

What is the final extent of it's affects on an entire society?
As said before on if it should be removed I think it is slowly degrading our society reverting back to beastial nature more so than would ever be required. It seems to be driving the social world into an anarchic state where marriages will no longer exist uneducated kids will be over-abundant, supermodels in office, intelligence sacrificed for beauty in children (people using genetics will choose blue eyecolor over making sure their brain is clean of diseases or mental handicaps). Its only a matter of time before the world completely takes a turn for the worse because of lust and the evidence is ever-more showing

Ha ha i guess this will be generally be considered a pessimistic point of view but I believe it may be needed as lust itself has already changed the worlds point of view on itself to have a positive spin on it

*also I believe women give into lust at least just as much as men do but there are a lot more men that at least admit to such where SOME women seem to be more deceiving on such a matter (I know a lot of girls personally that hold onto a boyfriend just because he is hot even though he treats her like crap, where about an equal amount of men I know admit to being shallow and dump a women when they are "done with them"(PS i never think this way) and sadly move onto another...) Objectively the men tend to have a higher chance to actually meet someone special rather than sticking with a loser* - sorry for the slightly misogynistic overtone it's just what I personally have experienced with other people... no doubt people have experienced otherwise

[Govinda]

I never understood this bit, really. Be fruitful, multiply! Oh, and by the way, lust is sinful. So we want good clean mating, okay? Thanks, church!

Anyway. All those questions up there are mental. Sex is, ultimately, a good thing. If it wasn't, humanity wouldn't spend quite so much time pursuing and practicing it. It remains good unless:

- you involve children and/or animals (don't care about the philosophical morals of that, it is plain ****ing wrong and weird)

- one or more part(ies) are not consenting

- it leads to psychological/physical hurt (ie stalking etc, unrequited mental lust).

Apart from that, hop to it. **** God (as long as he's up for it).

[Walter Sobchak]

Each person should have as much sex as possible. I will never understand why, when two people meet each other, they don't immediately undress and have sex. Of course, in the age of AIDs, protection is required, but that is only a minor obstacle.

I would have sex with every girl I meet if they let me. It can be used as a great story and great orgasms.

[Dan558]

Sex is, ultimately, a good thing. If it wasn't, humanity wouldn't spend quite so much time pursuing and practicing it.

Thats faulty logic, people have pursued and followed many things that are essentially bad. Killing on a basic level is bad, racism is bad, and they have been around for as long as any history can remember. Murder/Killing on occasions has been committed on levels that could almost put lust to shame and if people say its necessary like for retaliation against such things as 9/11 or the Holocaust you certainly can't justify those horrible events that triggered the retaliation.

Some people may say killing has some exceptions but there are probably less justifiable reasons for it then reasons you just gave for how lust can be bad (beastiality, rape etc.)

See, as I stated before people use it as an excuse and there aren't harsh enough personal consequences *see El Wrays opinion* Its sad how this generation has no respect for such things.

[Walter Sobchak]

See, as I stated before people use it as an excuse and there aren't harsh enough personal consequences *see El Wrays opinion* Its sad how this generation has no respect for such things.

There should be no personal consqequence for the the greatest pleasure one can receive naturally. The entire species, and most others, depend on its pleasure as a guiding tool to do it

I didn't read your manifesto before, but now I have, and I must say I am impressed, both with its ridiculousness and your ability to believe it (I don't think you do).

This holier than thou attitude about sex is what causes the problems we have in this society. It keeps people misinformed and leads to things like pregnancies and diseases. Yes, the opposite of your hypothesis is true. Statistics have overwhelmingly showed that states with abstinence only education have higher pregnancy rates than those with comprehensive education.

[Govinda]

Thats faulty logic, people have pursued and followed many things that are essentially bad. Killing on a basic level is bad, racism is bad, and they have been around for as long as any history can remember. Murder/Killing on occasions has been committed on levels that could almost put lust to shame and if people say its necessary like for retaliation against such things as 9/11 or the Holocaust you certainly can't justify those horrible events that triggered the retaliation.

Some people may say killing has some exceptions but there are probably less justifiable reasons for it then reasons you just gave for how lust can be bad (beastiality, rape etc.)

See, as I stated before people use it as an excuse and there aren't harsh enough personal consequences *see El Wrays opinion* Its sad how this generation has no respect for such things.

Call me, baby . You'll feel better afterwards.