Nintendo Worshippers

**maxpower** · 09-22-2006, 01:38 PM

Here is a thought for the Wii. I just read this article.

Originally Posted by 1up.com

R P G A M E R - N E W S B U L L E T I N

Yasumi Matsuno to Develop for Wii

09.21.2006

If playing Zelda: Twilight Princess on the Nintendo Wii was hard to believe, what about the rest of the RPG genre? Yasumi Matsuno, former director of Final Fantasy XII asked the same question at a conference in Tokyo last week as he declared his plans to develop for the console.

"The Wii controller makes total sense when you think about FPS-like games, but my question was, will the controls fit other existing games?" he was reported in saying. "However, when I first tried Mario Galaxy, I realized that the controller fit the game almost scarily well. It allows you to intuitively feel the game and its atmosphere."

The company Matsuno will develop for or the details of the project are currently unknown. Yasumi Matsuno is known for his creation of the Ogre Battle series and was responsible for the development of Final Fantasy Tactics.

It sounds like more designers are starting to see how the Wii could benefit their games! And this designer is coming over from FF tactics and FF XII. That sounds pretty good to me.

I'd also like to welcome our newest member geordanuk. Please try to help him out if he has questions.

**geordanuk** · 09-22-2006, 02:05 PM

Thanks for the welcome maxpower

About the Wii i have a feeling that it might do what the DS did which was leaving designers a little curious with it but not willing to experiment till later games have been released but hopefully it will have a good line-up (not including the games already confirmed for it)

**Divi-Dead** · 09-24-2006, 03:22 AM

I'm just glad it will be out before Xmas over here, it's got the PS3 beaten on release date, price and ingenuity. I reckon the Wii will be giving it a good go uo against the other consoles.

**geordanuk** · 09-24-2006, 06:38 AM

yeah ive just put my preorder down now , can't wait till christmas now lol but i think that the PS3 will beat it not because its better (which its not) but because everyone is up sony's butt for consoles but yeah im nintendo all the way

**Taco-Calamitous** · 09-26-2006, 03:19 PM

La la la... this club needs a boost, and I haven't posted anything for at least a couple days, so...

I have not yet done anything about securing my Wii. I just paid for my college books ($211, or so) and I haven't paid tuition yet, so... ugly. At least this is the last term for a while. Maybe by the time the Wii comes out, I will have the money to buy it. It should only take a little more than half my paycheck for the Wii and a game... La la la...

Lately, I haven't been hanging around TFF as much; I've been over on the Nsider boards. Specifically, the Smash Brothers boards. There's always a lot of talk over there about who thinks what new character should be in, and who's going to be removed (because it has been confirmed that some characters won't be returning for Brawl.) How do y'all feel about this?

There will be 3 3rd party characters (or possibly 5). Megaman and Sonic seem to be the top choices for the second and third slots after Snake, while the other popular choices are Bomberman, Pac Man, Simon Belmont, Crono, and Shadow. Some people claim that Shadow is the most popular choice. I seriously find this hard to believe (then again, people have claimed that Dr. Mario was the third most popular character in Melee, Jigglypuff is the 2nd most popular pokemon, and Pichu is the 2nd biggest pokemon icon; all in Japan. Also, in that Top 100 games of all time list some big Japanese magazine put out, Smash Brothers, along with all of the Mario games besides Super Mario Kart, did not make the list. Is it just me, or do they have some strange tastes over there?)

Anyhoo, I would personally like to see Sonic, Megaman, Bomberman and Crono as the additional 3rd party characters (or Sonic and Crono if they are only doing three third parties.) I somehow have the feeling that Crono would be a real stretch, however. Shadow would seem a stretch too, however, as it is generally understood that each 3rd party would only have one character in this game. The logical choice for Sega would be Sonic, yes?

As for regular 1st and 2nd party characters, I'd like to see Krystal, Wolf, and Geno that I can think of off the top of my head. (Although Geno is owned by Square, for some reason he was among the 1st party characters in Sakurai's poll. I don't get it, either.) Ridley would probably be cool, too. Maybe Magikoopa/Kamek, as well.

However, names of characters such as the dog from Duck Hunt, Tom Nook, Daisy, Toad, Toadette, and Bowser Jr. (to name a few) have all been given as serious suggestions. Besides Tom Nook, I think I'm fairly opposed to all these suggestions. Daisy, Toad, and Toadette are all very minor, filler-type characters. Bowser Jr. is a younger version of Bowser, who is already in the friggen' game. The Dog... I dunno. I guess he was the main character of his game... kind of... he also might have one of the best taunts ever (pointing at the camera and laughing).... I dunno. Maybe he'd be a similar character to Mr. Game and Watch; fun to confuse or embarrass your opponents with.

Finally, there will be characters removed. If I had my way, it would be Dr. Mario and Pichu. Dr. Mario is already in the game, as Plumber Mario. Why does he need to be in twice? Pichu... I just didn't like. It was a small, pointless addition to the Pikachu family in Pokemon. Essentially, it's a weaker version of Pikachu. Since it's impossible to distinguish between pokemon, too, it might be Smash's pikachu when it was younger. Just like Young Link (who I also felt a little disappointed in upon unlocking him.)

Btw: they really don't like it over there when you don't like a character that they do... Label you a newbie and such. It's great. Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

EDIT: changed "board" to "club." I do not think that my simply posting in one club boosts the entire clubs forum... >_>;;

**geordanuk** · 09-26-2006, 11:18 PM

hehe you brought up the topic on SSBB the main reason im getting the Wii

I think they should take Dr Mario because his moves suck and as Gusto said he's just a double of Mario i also wanna seen luigi again because he doesnt do anything special i want them to add Sonic and a character they definatly wont add Leon Kennedy im looking forward to playing as snake after MGS is my favourite game

**Setzertrancer** · 09-26-2006, 11:53 PM

I loved Smash Bros Melee, but I didn't like that amount of characters that were just copies of each other. Ganondorf for example should have had the ability to shoot his dark bolts, deflect with his cape and slam the ground to create a shockwave. But no they just made him the same as Captain Falcon.

I think they should add Sonic to the game and how about Conker, he'd have his uzis, the ability to piss on his enemies and he's have his trademark frying pan for his smash move. Sonic would have his launch spin as down B, lightning shield as up B, attracting nearby enemies to it to become shocked, Fire Shield as his forward b. Hell yeah that would be awsome.

**Lover Boy** · 09-30-2006, 08:33 AM

They should release a Bubble Bobble for the Wii.

GAWD I would love that.

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**geordanuk** · 10-01-2006, 08:36 AM

that would be an itsy bit strange to play on a Wii fun though i reckon pacman would be a bit of a strange addition also

**maxpower** · 10-02-2006, 08:10 AM

Sorry I have not been here for a little while.

School is really kicking my butt. However I would like to welcome Ranger into the club

I also recently found this page and thought that it was very interesting.

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm

it is a run down of all of the top 10 lists from different magazines if you look at the bottom it has a run down of the total games for each console. The top winner was the PC but then the Super Nintendo, NES, Gamecube and the N64 had more games or tied with more games on the list then Playstation or X-Box. Also super mario was included on 17 of the 23 lists. That seems pretty impresive.

Any thoughts?

**postalblowfish7** · 10-02-2006, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by maxpower

Sorry I have not been here for a little while.

School is really kicking my butt. However I would like to welcome Ranger into the club

I also recently found this page and thought that it was very interesting.

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm

it is a run down of all of the top 10 lists from different magazines if you look at the bottom it has a run down of the total games for each console. The top winner was the PC but then the Super Nintendo, NES, Gamecube and the N64 had more games or tied with more games on the list then Playstation or X-Box. Also super mario was included on 17 of the 23 lists. That seems pretty impresive.

Any thoughts?

what an awesome list compilation! i like how super mario 64 won greatest game of all time overall through the history of lists. it's pretty hilarious how dated some of the games on there are, and how it shows how absolutely bogus those lists are to begin with. tony hawk's pro skater 2 in the top 10 games of all time? hahaha whatever man...

and the fact that entertainment weekly would have the mindless trend-following gull to include Madden - 2003 LOL - anyone who's played the last 3 years of madden games (which are all complete rip offs by the way) know that the series has fallen from the grace it never really had (most true hxc gamers prefer 2K's gameplay over madden's name). not to mention the fact that i have to line up shelf after shelf of used sports games on the PS2 and XBOX walls at work at GameStop. they are UGLY. they are TASTELESS. they are completely counter to what i love about video games. Madden 2003 - one of the top 10 games of all time, for $1.99 at gamestop!

ok, i'm diverting the topic to a VG pet peeve - annual release sports titles, and the fools who line up to buy them. biggest difference between madden 2005 and madden 2006? madden 2005 was playable, madden 2006 sucked. biggest difference between madden 2006 and madden 2007? madden 2006 had a full color booklet, madden 2007 has a 8 page B&W pamplet.

what do they all have in common?

they were all $50 for the first year they were out, then their value dropped to below $5 when next year's version was released. when will this house of cards fall? when EA loses its exclusive NFL license and other companies are finally once again allowed to make NFL franchise football games, and one of them just makes a decent game that isn't rushed as fuck, and also offers downloadable roster/stat updates as the season progresses, and when the new season starts. seriously, the data for who's on what team and how good everyone is could fit on a freakin 3.5" floppy. and this is what people shell out $50 for every year.

oh well, serves them right. sports are for jocks and video games are for the cool - now that jocks are pretending to be gamers i guess i don't mind that they're all getting ripped off.

/rant off

on a on-topic note - the controls for madden on the Wii really do look promising LOL

**Taco-Calamitous** · 10-02-2006, 09:44 PM

What I kind of find interesting is that on that guy's own Top Ten List, he has Donkey Kong 3 has his third favorite game ever. It's weird because I've heard a lot of people didn't like that game, and I wonder what he saw in it that made him think it was that good. To each his own, obviously, but it would be interesting to hear arguments for that particular game.

Mario's game is Numero Uno. Right on. Although I guess Link still claims the title of "most popular video game character ever." And Sonic? Not even popular? ...that's crazy.

Were these all polls by American gamers, though? I wonder what would happen if he put lists in from Japan, too, and other big gaming nations...

Wuv, Yer Mom

**Dark One** · 10-03-2006, 05:28 AM

LOL true I like Donkey Kong but I have never played Donkey Kong 3. I'm sure its okay but I don't know. I well look it up one Sec. Okay here is a site that shows you waht the game looks like. Its realy old school. http://www.breumelhof.nl/emulationro...per/Itemid,61/

Anyways sorry for not posting in so long.

thanks

**maxpower** · 10-03-2006, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by postalblowfish7

and the fact that entertainment weekly would have the mindless trend-following gull to include Madden - 2003 LOL - anyone who's played the last 3 years of madden games (which are all complete rip offs by the way) know that the series has fallen from the grace it never really had (most true hxc gamers prefer 2K's gameplay over madden's name). not to mention the fact that i have to line up shelf after shelf of used sports games on the PS2 and XBOX walls at work at GameStop. they are UGLY. they are TASTELESS. they are completely counter to what i love about video games. Madden 2003 - one of the top 10 games of all time, for $1.99 at gamestop!

ok, i'm diverting the topic to a VG pet peeve - annual release sports titles, and the fools who line up to buy them. biggest difference between madden 2005 and madden 2006? madden 2005 was playable, madden 2006 sucked. biggest difference between madden 2006 and madden 2007? madden 2006 had a full color booklet, madden 2007 has a 8 page B&W pamplet.

what do they all have in common?

they were all $50 for the first year they were out, then their value dropped to below $5 when next year's version was released. when will this house of cards fall? when EA loses its exclusive NFL license and other companies are finally once again allowed to make NFL franchise football games, and one of them just makes a decent game that isn't rushed as fuck, and also offers downloadable roster/stat updates as the season progresses, and when the new season starts. seriously, the data for who's on what team and how good everyone is could fit on a freakin 3.5" floppy. and this is what people shell out $50 for every year.

oh well, serves them right. sports are for jocks and video games are for the cool - now that jocks are pretending to be gamers i guess i don't mind that they're all getting ripped off.

/rant off

on a on-topic note - the controls for madden on the Wii really do look promising LOL

Thats why I am still a fan of Tecmo Super Bowl. I mean come on that was (and perhaps still is) the greatest football game available. It didn't matter that a new version didn't come out every year because it was all about the game not the players and stats. It was like a football game that was made for gamers not football fanatics. GO TECMO!

**Taco-Calamitous** · 10-03-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lover Boy

They should release a Bubble Bobble for the Wii.

GAWD I would love that.

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I just wanted to note that you might be able to download it on the virtual console... or are only Nintendo-made games going to be available for download? Bubble Bobble would rock, though.

Maybe you meant a new version, too. I wonder how that would work with the wii-mote, though. How innovative is Taito? What have they been doing lately? Any cool, innovative games come out by them?

Back to those Top 10 lists; I'm glad that Warcraft II made it on. That is my favorite game ever. Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

**geordanuk** · 10-04-2006, 07:49 AM

hmm if they brought bubble bobble out on DS Taito might consider the Wii i hope so anyway

**maxpower** · 10-05-2006, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by ?? (????)

Now, summoning Super Hunter/Ranger exclusive multiple club mode:

Super Hunter/Ranger mode started with automatic casual reader acceptor spell!

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings takes place before the
Final Fantasy XII for the Sony PlayStation 2, and is for the Nintendo DS. Here is a short explanaion.
Summoning mode end commencing...

Hooray! FFXII for the Nintendo DS!
That is all for this time. Any thoughts, those effected by the summoning?

Wow I think that is great. It seems to show that the people that make the final fantasy games know which portable system is the best. I am really excited that I am going to be able to play about half of the Final Fantasy titles on my DS (well between the Gameboy advanced port and the DS slot.)

**geordanuk** · 10-05-2006, 01:09 PM

Hehe i own a DS and I'm currently saving money just to get FF III and FFXII ive seen screenshots and stuff of III but i havent seen XII but i dont care because im getting them anyway

**Taco-Calamitous** · 10-05-2006, 02:44 PM

I'm thinking more and more that maybe I should get the Nintendo DS... first, for the pokemon games, second, for Star Fox, thrid, for Final Fantasy III, and now FF XII. Interesting. Is the DS backwards compatible with the Gameboy Advance or anything? I have fond memories of playing Final Fatnasy Tactics: Advance on it at one point, while borrowing my friend's Advance. Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

**geordanuk** · 10-05-2006, 02:53 PM

yeah it does GBA games its a really underestimated handheld

**postalblowfish7** · 10-06-2006, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Taco

I'm thinking more and more that maybe I should get the Nintendo DS... first, for the pokemon games, second, for Star Fox, thrid, for Final Fantasy III, and now FF XII. Interesting. Is the DS backwards compatible with the Gameboy Advance or anything? I have fond memories of playing Final Fatnasy Tactics: Advance on it at one point, while borrowing my friend's Advance. Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

um... yeah taco. you NEED a DS. not only will it have functionality with the Wii, but it's also the end all be all greatest handheld system of all time. the PSP is officially sunk. they're going to stop making UMD movies all together, and EA Sports is pulling its support for the platform as well.

meanwhile the DS is enjoying 8 out of the top 10 sales spots for gaming in japan, and still receiving a huge following in america. it's versatile, innovative, and the library keeps getting better and better. not to mention that it can also play the over 1000 GBA games on the market.

and like you said, with the new pokémon games, FFIII, the FFXII spinoff, and the chatter about a possible FFVII port - the timing has never been better.

you can even get it in black and pink now!

/salesman off

**geordanuk** · 10-06-2006, 10:13 AM

haha totally agreeing with postalblowfish they are very cool handhels and are worth the money plus they have the lite version which is dropping in price now so you can get that one either way they are cool

**Taco-Calamitous** · 10-06-2006, 11:32 AM

Don't get angry at me! I'm just a poor college student with no money

I promise I didn't buy the psp instead of the DS at some point! I swear! The last handheld system I owned was Game Boy Color! (Got that so I could play the new Crystalis... which was fun, btw, but nowhere near the quality of the original-which was my favorite game for a while there-and much shorter, too. I missed the old music... was the same fun game play, though. I hope the original is on the virtual console...)

Anyhoo, just kidding about the "don't hate me!" part, as per I'm pretty sure you don't hate me... heh.

Wuv, Yer Mom

**geordanuk** · 10-06-2006, 12:16 PM

hehe trust me we wasnt angry (or i sure wasnt lol) but its just a great console hehe ask your perants or something thats what i did

**geordanuk** · 10-07-2006, 02:22 PM

wow glad to here you got your retro-ness back hehe ahh those where the days when i wasnt around hehe oh well it didnt stop me getting a NES when PS1's was around

**Setzertrancer** · 10-09-2006, 02:36 AM

Hey dudes, I've recently been getting back into the wonder that was the N64. I got the project 64 emulator and I've been playing the following greatest games of all time. Zelda Master Quest, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Donkey Kong 64, Paper Mario, Banjo Tooie and Jet Force Gemini. It suck trying to play these games on the key board, so I bought a cool wireless controller that resembled a ps2 controller, but I managed to find a way to make it resemble the N64 controller as much as posible, had to have L2 as Z and select as Up C and etc. It's been an awesome fun couple of days playing these have you dudes gone back to the N64 lately.

I honestly think that some of the games on the N64 still havn't been beaten in modern games, Perfect Dark for example. I hope the Wii manages to create games that will be a good and fun as these N64 games.

**maxpower** · 10-09-2006, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by ?? (????)

Well, I've got my Nintendo Entertainment System working now! I first tested it with Mega Man. It really came out well, no artifacts or bad renderings. In other words, Yeah!

Another game I tested it out with was a Square title called King's Knight. A pretty good shooter/adventure type game. I plan to write a review for it soon. Alright, the main game I'll be playing for sure now is, of course, to continue the Prophecy of Lukahn by becoming the Light Warriors for Final Fantasy!

I'll tell you what that king's knight game is fun but man it is hard! My friends and I used to play this game all the time (in highschool) to try and beat it. It was impossible! I mean it, I had a friend that could beat super mario brothers one in a minute and a half (it's true it can be done) but we could not beat that darn Kings Knight no matter how long we played it.

Originally Posted by setzertrancer

Hey dudes, I've recently been getting back into the wonder that was the N64. I got the project 64 emulator and I've been playing the following greatest games of all time. Zelda Master Quest, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Donkey Kong 64, Paper Mario, Banjo Tooie and Jet Force Gemini. It suck trying to play these games on the key board, so I bought a cool wireless controller that resembled a ps2 controller, but I managed to find a way to make it resemble the N64 controller as much as posible, had to have L2 as Z and select as Up C and etc. It's been an awesome fun couple of days playing these have you dudes gone back to the N64 lately.

I honestly think that some of the games on the N64 still havn't been beaten in modern games, Perfect Dark for example. I hope the Wii manages to create games that will be a good and fun as these N64 games.

I would agree on the idea that some of the N64 games still have not be beaten even with todays games. I still play both of the Zelda titles from the 64 all of the time.

Hey I also thought that I would mention that I pre-ordered a Wii today! Waht a great thing to do.

**Taco-Calamitous** · 10-17-2006, 11:04 PM

Hmm... it's been over a week since anyone's posted anything. I think I'll give this club a boost.

I totally started playing Super Mario RPG again this weekend. I don't know why I hadn't sooner; it's such a great game. I've been playing it differently than other times I've gone through it, however; for example, I haven't used Geno much at all. I replaced him with Bowser, and then replaced Mallow with the Princess (who I never used before, much at all.)

I think it's probably because I would always go for all out brute strength, and Geno has stronger attacks than the Princess. However, this time around I've been using the Princess's healing powers. I always just used to use countless pick-me-ups in the past. Someone fainted, they got picked up. The Princess's "Group Hug," "Therapy," and "Come Back" work quite nicely, though.

I've also noticed that certain enemy attacks are a lot stronger than I remember them being. Like, starting in the Forest Maze, the enemies really started to take it to my characters with some attacks. I think It's because I've been solely focusing on my characters' physical attack and defense points, and not their special attack and defense each time they level up. Anyhoo...

I also beat Super Mario 3 this weekend, I think for the first time. That's pretty messed up. I also don't think I've ever beaten the original Super Mario Brothers either. I was playing that, got to World 5, and couldn't get further because I suck bad. Heh...

So yeah. I've been revisiting my "roots," so to speak. Getting back to Monster Town in Super Mario RPG reminds me of Middle School, when I first played that game. I dunno why it specifically does that for me, and not any of the other places, but *shrug* Anyhoo...

Wuv, Yer Mom

**geordanuk** · 10-17-2006, 11:11 PM

WOW Super Mario RPG is an awesome game i had to emulate it because it wasnt released in England I havent played i in a while and such but I never got far on it.......well not as far Taco seems to be , oh yeah I recently went back to my gamecube because my PS2 broke so i got a few games for my GC and now i'm hooked again

**maxpower** · 10-20-2006, 11:59 AM

Okay I have got to point out that geomancer has a really sweet nintendo worshippers sig. I have got to know where I can get a copy of that!

I also wanted to point out this interessting article on IGN

http://blogs.ign.com/matt-ign

It covers this guys "10 must get games for the Wii" what do you think? What games are you excited for? How in the world did he miss Super Smash brothers? Or does Smash brothers come out later? Any thoughts?

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