Never mind i have now completed ffx-2 and i never ever have to go near via infinito again. Because i have now gor 3 iron dukes for my 3 characters hahahaha. I only go donw there to cloister 20 to get the crimson sphere so i can do the den of woe every time i play it. I will do everythink in the game next time i will play it but i will never ever have to go into via infinito again mwhaaaaaaaaaa.