You have just said to me, that you called me Hitler, because I deserved to be called Hitler, you have accused me of 'blowing things out of proportion' yet you say I had it coming to be called the things you have called me. I did not report the offensive statements to the moderators, I was under the impression that we were both adults and could work out differences in opinions as such. If you are unable or unwilling to do such, I can alter my opinion of you from a member who can contribute to an intellectual discussion, to a child that gets mad and calls people hitler when he doesnt agree with me on military meta game. Either situation does not require moderator intervention. As I requested previously, I told you to critically analyze what I actually said as I felt you would see, as many people already have, that my opinions did not warrant comparisons to hitler. As you refused, and refused to retract your statements, I requested you leave the forums. I will consider the consequences, and reputation I might inherit if you were to tell the members that I was the reason for you leaving(though I would argue that you would be to blame, as all you had to do was reconsider your positions, anyone who truly thinks that I am comparable to hitler has some issues). I would openly discuss my criticism, and not ignore someone because I did not like what they said. As you have been more and more shifting from a person who can contribute useful opinions and information, to a slandering and character assassinating troll with the maturity of a child, I no longer see it necessary to require a withdrawal or apology from such a child. You will not see me requesting one. Should you change your position to a member that is more capable of contributing, I will of course call upon you again to retract such hitler comparisons.
Anything 'deragotory' I have said about you has been prompted. You are blowing everything out of proportion, and from where I'm standing you intend to continue to escalate this. If you have a problem with any content of The Final Fantasy, any member or any forum / web staff members please report the offending material and wait for action to be taken. I have told you already, that I interpreted content of your post to be offensive and I would no longer continue replying to you within that thread. If you continue to leave messages that I have no desire to reply to I will consider it harrassment. I encourage you to think about the potential consequences anything you say on this forum may have, and take a moment to think about the kind of reputation you would get if I did post in the Members Business secction saying that I was leaving because of you.
You have called me Hitler, compassion less, and have attacked my views as not even worthy of debate, this goes beyond the scope of a 'disagreement between members' you have attempted to attack my positions based on a personality traits you have designated to me, without even being willing to actually discuss if these traits are even accurate. Personal attacks with no merit are in fact damaging to the forum, furthermore refusing to discuss them civilly, while still standing by them is even more damaging. If however you are incapable of discussing it civilly, that is an entirely different matter, either way your attacks have been way out of line, and are required to be retracted and apologized for. Once again you are unable to separate the capability of doing something, with the the act of doing it, as you have continued to show this inability to respond correct, in addition to the other courses of action you have engaged in(and those you have abstained from engaging in) it becomes more and more correct for you to withdraw from the forums entirely, as you are unable to react correctly.
By failing to engage you, I hope to stop bringing more attention to the situation. You have done your damage to me, I have stated publicly that I would no longer participate in arguing with you. This is because, as I have already stated, your views are incomprehensible at best from any person with the least bit of compassion. You honestly think that me offending you, or as you put it 'slandering', is damaging to the forum. Members have disagreements all the time, and I believe I've been rather civil in choosing to ignore you rather than losing all patience and doing something I may regret. I will not be apologising, whilst you may think that annihilation is an acceptable course of action in today's world, I think it is barbaric to even think about it. Your graphic image of the destruction of one billion lives, one-sixth of the world's population is why I have cut all ties with your posts.
But here is the problem, you have compared me to hitler, which is extremely slanderous, as well as offensive, and completely incorrect, and you being here for 5 years, and refusing to engage me, for someone who is attempting to take the higher moral ground your actions are quite disgusting. I take comfort in the USA's ability to eradicate a country, because those countries wish to eradicate us, if you do not believe they do not want this then you are blind. You cannot coerce a surrender out of a country from the realization of annihilation being possible, if you are incapable of following through. This does not mean you have to ever follow through, or ever have an intention of following through. Japan is a stellar example of this,, they didn't surrender after 1 bomb, they surrendered after 2, when they realized they now faced annihilation. The fact that I endorse this proven effective military tactic, does not make me disregard human life, nor does it make me sub-human, your attacks against me are extremely slanderous, and incorrect, and you have twisted everything I say to fit into this template, it has appeared that you are incapable of recognizing this and adapting your view. As if you were capable, you would realize immediately and publicly retract your statements and apologize. That is why I called for your departure, as if you continue you act in such a manner you are infact damaging these forums far worse than you have ever contributed in the past 5 years. Regards.
I'm afraid you will be getting neither. I have been a member of these forums for five years and you taking offense at a literal interpretation I made of your post actually bothers me less than I could even describe. I saw you as perhaps anti-Chinese, until you clarified that you weren't, but that was never what I took offense to. It was your disregard for human life. It wouldn't have mattered had you said India or Mauritius, you take comfort in the USA's abillity to eradicate an entire country. That's what disgusts me, exactly what you said. You see it as a millitary thing whereas I see it as genocide. Because that's what it is, using any one of those WMDs against civillians is genocide, not tactical warfare, it's killing innocent people who likely don't support that war.
Interesting! You compare arguing with me as to arguing with Hitler, some people would call that an exaggeration, While I disagree with you on the Wesboro Church remark, as I feel that my arguments would hold merit no matter who presented them(unlike an argument conceived out of the westboro church statement) I will not challenge that statement directly. It is an unfortunate circumstance that the thought experiment of china being destroyed was such a horrid idea to you that you were unable to see the context of what I was actually referencing. As I have never called for, nor wished the destruction of china, I happen to like china. Perhaps you should re-read my post so that you can see that I was referring to military philosophy and strategy, as opposed to an actual animosity towards a specific country. If you are still unable to decipher what I was attempting to display with my example of china, I would be more than willing/happy to explain it for you. I can certainly understand why you might be stuck on the notion that I want to kill Chinese people, and I cannot in good conscious have you truly believe that about me. If however you would prefer to ignore this and simply believe as well as portray me as something that I am not, I have to respectfully ask you to leave the forums entirely. As the things you accuse me of being are quite offensive, slanderous, and simply incorrect. And if you are unwillingly to engage me without retracting your statements, given your reputation on the forums, you are depriving me of the very same opportunity I proposed to you. And I am forced to request either a public apology from you for character assassination(by you taking my statements out of context to portray me as something I am not, and as such, under handing my very valid argument points based solely on who presented them) Or complete withdrawl from the forum, as otherwise it could be conceived by others that you simply were not aware of the responses I made. Obviously this is quite extreme and nobody hopes for this, quite honestly I would much rather have you engage me intellectually, and challenge my ideas that are so foul to you. Hope to see you continue in the ID forums!
I'm sorry but since your post concerning the slaughter of every person in China emerged, I have been unable to consider you a human being. I stand by my decision to further neglect you from any responses on my part, since it would be against my own personal ethics to even feel the need to defend my point of view. It's like arguing with Hitler, I wouldn't do it because once a person has reached that point of extremity nothing you say even matters. I'm not dismissing your free speech by not responding. But at this moment in time I consider you on par with the Westboro Baptist Church, and I know that there would be no point talking to them either. With view points like yours, defending my viewpoint becomes redundant, simply because taking it to such extremities means that your doing more damage to your own view point than I ever could. You should be proud of yourself, I have skirmished with people I believe to share more right-winged views than yourself and never ignored them. But of course none of them endorced mass genocide. Seriously, if you were a person of higher profile you'd be banned from the UK, Germany and... well, you might as well lump it all toghether as Europe like before.
Hello! While sending a message to Unknown I noticed you had posted as well, making it apparent that you noticed my request for you to intelligently criticize my posts. With the promise of me retracting my statements and honestly altering my opinions if you can attack my positions to the point that you in fact were right in simply 'ignoring' my posts. It's been apparent that you have not taken me up on this offer and I was curious as to why, dismissing a person because you disagree with their views simply destroys free speech, and nobody wants that. It also encourages 'lazy politics' While it's safe to say I probably disagree with Unknown at least 95% of the time if not more, and feel is wrong on every issue we have ever discussed, I commend, and respect them for defending their position to death and engaging me, despite probably hating everything I stand for. Hope to see you jump into the conversation!
